beercellar Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 Why bother having refs,they cant do there job properly ,mark loram - did win that race(should of watched the replay) pedersen switching off - ex,last round tricky fell off - ex,1st round gollob no front mudgard - ex,whats going on,but it was still a top nite last nite apart from the ref, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 No camera on the finish line - how on earth was the referee able to call the Loram/Sullivan result? It was impossible to tell from the angle we were shown. No point of having a jury meeting pre tournament if riders who subsequently 'shut off' escape the defined sanction. Finally, when will all race winners not shut off as soon as they cross the finish line. Second and third positions are vital and those guys are going full pelt, the last thing they want is the winner virtually stationery in front of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JY2003 Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 mark loram - did win that race Im sorry but i cant agree with you on that one. It looked to me like Sully deffinetly got it.I agree with you, it did look like Nicki and that other rider shut off but refs will be refs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 The only 'definite' thing about it was that the Referee gave it to him. There is no way you could separate them at normal speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody-the-bee Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 honestly there is no way you could've seperated loram and sullivan. like they said, if that was in the elite league it would've been a dead heat and the points shared. as for the shutting off, i cant understand why the referee didn't take any action. he told them before the meeting that it wouldn't be tolerated at all, and then he lets it go? this was the same referee as coventry vs wolves. enough said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presenter Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 You can understand why Scott Nicholls was so aggreved as he was still coming down to the finish line at full pelt, with two vitually stationery riders infront of him causing an unnecessary hazzard. Especially when you think that this is his first meeting back from injury and naturally trepedacious. His point to the referee was that at the jury meeting he quite clearly sent a directive to the riders that if they blatently shut off then they would be excluded....that did not happen....Why??? The standard of refereeing in the Grand prix this season has been generally poor, with a whole host of incidence that have gone by without punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 and at cardiff im sure we have got a Polish ref Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoTigers Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Nicki claims that he had engine problems and didn't shut down on purpose. Both him and the guy behind him, can't remember who it was, have been fined but I don't know for how much. But I thought the ref was better last night than in the first two GPs, but maybe that was because there wasn't that many crashes. I still don't understand though why they stop a race and let all four riders restart just because a rider almost makes a false start. As long as he doesn't touch the rope it's his own fault that he gets a slower start and I don't see how they can stop it when all four riders make it to the first corner without trouble. It happened once last night in Scott Nichols' first or second heat and it happened a few times in Praque too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjw ministerofport Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 I think Sullivan just won it. The question is what is going to happen when there is a dead heat, does the ref just decide for himself or should there be a run off. Here are just a few refs decisions that i have felt were wrong this year. 1 All four riders in incidents after the first turn. 2 Not excluding Nicki when he bought down Greg. (That allowed Greg to take the law into his own hands) surely wrong. 3 No front mudguard. 4 Allowing races to be run with faulty starting gate 5 Slowing down to gain advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzuki star 882 Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 What happens if there is a dead heat in an elimination race in the SGP ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody-the-bee Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 run off, with the gates being drawn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Sounds like the obvious solution Woody, but knowing BSI and co, it'll end up like a good carry on film or a bad one.. total farce!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beercellar Posted June 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 lets hope theres no bad decisions mad at cardiff,lets hope the ref is more up to scratch.4th time lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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