norbold Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 (edited) I suppose I should do my best I've seen 7, having already done my best of all time. Here goes then: 1. Ove Fundin 2. Ivan Mauger 3. Tony Rickardsson 4. Barry Briggs 5. Hans Nielsen 6. Bjorn Knutsson 7. Michael Lee (1977-80 version) Edited June 2, 2004 by norbold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewantodd Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 [COL1OR=red] 1 george hunter 2 neil collins 3 ivan mauger 4 bruce penhall 5 kenny carter 6 ole olsen and finally 7 me in reserve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Best I've seen (in no particular order): Ronnie Moore Anders Michanek Ivan Mauger Hans Nielsen Tony Rickardsson Bruce Penhall Per Jonsson Ole Olsen (no 8) However none of these can compare with John Cook for entertainment value Best I've not seen: Vic Duggan Peter Craven Ove Fundin Vic Huxley Tommy Farndon Jack Parker Bluey Wilkinson Bjorn Knutsson (no 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Best seen in no order: I.Mauger H.Nielsen B.Penhall E.Gundersen O.Olsen Peter Collins T.Jansson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 best i've seen: Ivan Mauger Kenny Carter Mike Lee Billy Sanders Tommy Jansson Erik Gundersen and Mike Ferreira took some stopping for Wimbledon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Mike Ferreira took some stopping for Wimbledon and Canterbury He won the NLRC for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Yeah,was tempted to do a 2nd Division best 7 and Ferreira would have to be in there If we were talking about best 7 on a soggy sawdust laden track Shazzies unc would make it as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Unc didn't do too bad in his time riding he is still top of the Averages at Rye House even though he gave up racing in there in 78/79 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 He is one of the greats of 2nd League racing ,no doubt.Maybe Backtrack will do something about him Just from what i remember he was still extremely good in conditions where other riders were struggling a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 LMAO I'm sure he will take that as a compliment of his performances and will pass on your comment Iris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy moore Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 1 per jonsson 2 anders michanek 3 hans neilsen 4 penhall 5 kenny carter 6 dennis sigalos 7 ole olsen 8 mauger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATigerman Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 (edited) Best I've seen (in no particular order) Peter Collins Ole Olsen Ivan Mauger Barry Briggs Bruce Penhall Tony Rickardsson Tony Forward Edited June 2, 2004 by WATigerman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Best 7 I've seen... 1. Bruce Penhall 2. Erik Gundersen 3. Janno Pedersen 4. Hans Neilsen 5. Sam Ermolenko 6. Tony Rickardsson 7. John Cook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 (edited) Anyone with memories of Youngie? Yes, I have. 1961 New Cross. Youngie was well past his best then though he was still a heat leader with Coventry, but not in the same class as the 'Big 5' of the period. August 30 1961, King of the South Cup. Youngie scored 14 points having beaten Ove Fundin, Barry Briggs, Ron How, Peter Moore and Eric Williams amongst others on the way. The only rider to beat him was Ronnie Moore. However Moore also dropped a point during the meeting, so there was a run-off which Youngie duly won. So during the course of the evening he had beaten Fundin, Briggs and Moore to take the title. The following week, 6 September 1961, the Tom Farndon Memorial Trophy. Youngie again scored 14 points, this time beating Moore, Briggs and Bjorn Knutson along the way. The only rider to beat him on the night was Peter Craven. However, Craven dropped three points during the meeting, so Youngie won without the need for a run-off this time. He was absolutely brilliant and there was no doubt that on those two nights at New Cross the speedway world had a 'Big 6' not just 5. He rode like he must have ridden in the early 50s. I feel very privileged to have seen Youngie at his best long after I thought I'd missed his best years. He was a great rider. And always had to do it from behind as he was one of the world's worst gaters. Edited June 2, 2004 by norbold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Darstadly Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 That is brilliant Norman. I'm just thinking would Jack Young be the last Australian to be a world champion???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 You are right in thinking that...until Jason Crump this year....er... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Mike Ferreira took some stopping for Wimbledon and Canterbury He won the NLRC for us And just about every other race he rode in during 1981. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatty Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 In my speedway lifetime: Kenny Carter Michael Lee Hans Nielsen Tony Rickardsson Thomas Gollob Mark Loram Chris Morton and second division: Joe Owen Bob Garrad Steve Lawson Rod Hunter Martin Goodwin Leigh Adams Matej Zagar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark cox Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 In no particular order... 1. Ivan Mauger... still had the hunger for that last title at 39 years old. 2. Ole Olsen... a fantastic and skilful racer. 3. Peter Collins... Britains greatest and so gutsy in defending his title in 1977, with part of his shin missing. Girly footballers take note! 4. Erik Gundersen... not as consistently dominant in the league as Mr Nielsen, but always could raise his game when it really mattered. 5. Hans Nielsen... stylish, hard and as consistent as they come. 6. Tony Rickardson... won the last one-off Final, as well as a few GP's! Not fazed at all by temporary tracks, and his overtaking skills in the GP's a couple of years ago, after nearly falling off were breathtaking, showing his skill and hunger to win. 7. Jan O Pedersen... a rubbish gater, who weighed less than a sack of King Edwards spuds, how could he have been any good? Well in my book he was the greatest, simply because of his sheer riding ability, allowing to find the best racing lines on any track. In 1990 Per Jonsson fully deserved his title at Bradford, but a fit Jan O would've given him a run for his money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoddy Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Jan O Pedersen... a rubbish gater, who weighed less than a sack of King Edwards spuds, how could he have been any good? Well in my book he was the greatest, simply because of his sheer riding ability, allowing to find the best racing lines on any track. In 1990 Per Jonsson fully deserved his title at Bradford, but a fit Jan O would've given him a run for his money. I have to agree with this one. Of the 5 finals from 90 to 94 I think he was more than capable of winning at least three of them. I have a sneaky feeling he could have taken one or two of the early GP's aswell with Rickardsson not yet dominant - the performances of Nielsen, Knudsen and Ermolenko who were edging past their best at this stage without being properly replaced (sorry Hamill and Hancock, I may be being a bit harsh) suggest these could even have been his best years. In terms of all time greats I think there is a flow from Young-Moore-Fundin-Briggs-Craven-Mauger-Olsen-Penhall-Gundersen-Nielsen which breaks down until we get to Rickardsson-Crump now. Without doubt Jonsson and Ermolenko are world class and without injuries who knows but I think Pedersen would have been the man to fill this gap with several titles. Had it not been for injuries I seriously think he could well be making a few top 7's on this thread. Plus a bloody great rider to watch to top it all off!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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