norbold Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 Well that's told me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom House Kid Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 Well i did think the whole idea of the years gone by section, was for sad old gits to reminisce! Pass me a G & T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 oooooo I'll have one with you CHK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 (edited) a shot o' captain morgan if ya please, and a round for my mates too. gotta go, think i see jj wandering up the beach towards my humble establishment. gotta see if he might want to buy a t shirt, key chain, cap or official bob marley roach clip. and remember, as my ol pappy used to say,.. rehab is for quitters.. Edited June 10, 2004 by sandman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BLACKDUKE Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 1. Eric Boocock 2. Kenny Carter 3. Ian Cartwright 4. Henny Kroeze 5. Chris Pussy 6. John Louis 7. Charlie Monk.......... ...........................................????? But there again im biast and reminissing and wishing we were back...!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GxJxN Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 mine Are 1.L.Adams 2.T.Wilkshare(Sorry if Spelling Wrong) 3.J.Crump 4.P.Crump 5.R.Sullivan 6.S.Johnson 7.J.Oliver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoddy Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 5. Chris Pussy I'd hate to see what you call the riders you don't like!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 5. Chris Pussy What's my porn star stage name doing in your all-time list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlivefrankie Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 favs ive seen 1. harrysson 2. moore 3. PC 4. nordin 5. crump p 6. adams l 7. crump j all time best ive seen 1. mauger 2. moore 3. olsen 4. nielsen 5. briggs b 6. penhall 7. pc best all time seen or not seen 1. craven 2. fundin 3. mauger 4. briggs b 5 rickardsson 6 moore 7 knutsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Saint Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Very hard question to answer, but the best I have seen are: 1) Peter Craven 2) Ove Fundin 3) Barry Briggs 4) Bjorn Knutsson 5) Ronnie Moore 6) Ivan Mauger 7) Tony Rickardsson These are not in any particular order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoddy Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Interesting (if you're a sad statto) to add up the forum dream team! There is always a bias to more recent riders and many have listed the best they have seen rather than all time but it's a pretty good side!!! Taking people's 7's - all time rather than best seen where there was more than one list - comes up with the following... 1. Tony Rickardsson - 22 2. Ivan Mauger - 20 3. Hans Nielsen - 17 4. Erik Gundersen - 12 5. Barry Briggs - 11 6. Bruce Penhall - 10 7. Ove Fundin & Ole Olsen - 9 Just behind with 7 are Carter, Craven, Jonsson and Moore (Ronnie rather than Andy)!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Interesting (if you're a sad statto) to add up the forum dream team! There is always a bias to more recent riders and many have listed the best they have seen rather than all time but it's a pretty good side!!! Taking people's 7's - all time rather than best seen where there was more than one list - comes up with the following... 1. Tony Rickardsson - 22 2. Ivan Mauger - 20 3. Hans Nielsen - 17 4. Erik Gundersen - 12 5. Barry Briggs - 11 6. Bruce Penhall - 10 7. Ove Fundin & Ole Olsen - 9 Just behind with 7 are Carter, Craven, Jonsson and Moore (Ronnie rather than Andy)!!! Thanks Shoddy, that's very interesting. However, as I said before: I think we need two categories here: 1. Best of all time 2. Best I've actually seen Otherwise it sems to suggest that there were no top class riders before about 1980..... Apart from making that 1960 instead of 1980. No Vic Duggan or Tom Farndon...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoddy Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Or Vic Huxley - you'd think there were no good riders before the mid 30's!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Exactly. Where are Frank Arthur and Sprouts Elder, not to mention Maldwyn Jones... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 What era are they Norbold (purely out of interest) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Frank Arthur and Sprouts Elder were at their best in the mid to late 20s. Maldwyn Jones is the man who is said to have invented broadsiding in America in the early 20s, so I suppose, at the time, there could have been no doubt that he was the greatest speedway rider in the world as he was probably the only one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 When and where was the first speedway then?I thought Reg Fearman had tracked some meetings as far back as circa 1916 in Oz.Was always wondering how Americans were over here at the start though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 (edited) The start of speedway is a minefield! Johnnie Hoskins, of course, always claimed he started it at West Maitland in December 1923, but the Americans had a similar sport just after the first world war - 1919 and early 20s - only it was on longer half mile and mile tracks. There is a report of a similar sport in South Africa in 1909. The earliest reference to motor cycles racing round an oval track comes from Ipswich, where a meeting took place on the Portman Road ground on 2 July 1904 on grass. Although Hoskins claimed he invented it there is evidence to suggest that, even in Australia, motor bikes were racing round oval circuits before 1923. As I said above, the Americans, in the shape of Maldwyn Jones and Eddie Brinck, are credited with inventing broadsiding well before the West Maitland meeting. Curiously though, in an article in a 1933 American motor cycle magazine, Sprouts Elder, an American, said that he visited Australia in the mid 20s and that was where he learnt the art of broadsiding. When brakes came off the bikes is still the subject of research and is uncertain. Like all these things, the sport evolved over a number of years from different beginnings. It is not as simple as saying Johnnie Hoskins invented it at West Maitland in 1923. Edited July 6, 2004 by norbold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Well i thought Hoskins was only involved with West Maitland in a very minor role and can be discounted as having started speedway even there.Interesting about Elders,always thought there must have been some tour from one country to the other or someone took the idea back a bit like Wills here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 I think you might be underestimating Hoskins role at West Maitland. As far as I know, it was his idea to organise motor bike racing as part of the entertainment. It's just that it wasn't the first time it had happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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