mikebv Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 (edited) On 4/8/2025 at 10:38 PM, ShanoXtra said: Are you ok? Any sportsperson can get complacent when constantly winning and therefore think they can turn up and just win. All teams have said we are the strongest so that can bring complacency in itself, I was not referencing what you wrote at all. I haven’t even said we are complacent, I simply stated it can creep in at any point. You show your knowledge of sports by the last post about if one team beats one, and we’ve beaten the first team, then we will easily win, sport isn’t that simple Expand When you are paid per point I would suggest zero complacency... The Home meetings are where the vast majority of riders make their money, so will "fill their boots" if they get a chance to... The only threat to the Witches this season for me is their own fans getting bored of them hammering teams at Foxhall and then picking and choosing meetings... (5-1's can be some of the most boring races to watch given one rider often just follows their team mate as the rider in third can be miles away)... Ironically though they will attract some good attendances away from home, with their opponents reaping all the financial benefit... I am even debating whether to attend Sheffield when the Witches are there.. And I haven't travelled anywhere other than BV for years as no team match ups have given me any interest in attending... Edited April 9 by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted April 9 Author Report Share Posted April 9 On 4/8/2025 at 10:31 PM, szkocjasid said: Ipswich beat Belle Vue by 54 on aggregate. Belle Vue beat King's Lynn by 24 on aggregate. King's Lynn beat Oxford by 32 on aggregate. So I can't see Ipswich getting less than 60. Could get 65+ Expand It really doesn’t work like that though does it? No two meetings are the same you could run all those meetings you’ve listed again next week and you’d get totally different results in all of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted April 9 Author Report Share Posted April 9 On 4/9/2025 at 5:10 AM, mikebv said: When you are paid per point I would suggest zero complacency... The Home meetings are where the vast majority of riders make thei it money, so will "fill their boots" if they get a chance to... The only threat to the Witches this season for me is their own fans getting bored of them hammering teams at Foxhall and then picking and choosing meetings... (5-1's can be some of the most boring races to watch given one rider often just follows their team mate as the rider in third can be miles away)... Ironically though they will attract some good attendances away from home, with their opponents reaping all the financial benefit... I am even debating whether to attend Sheffield tomorrow given the Witches are there.. And I haven't travelled anywhere other than BV for years as no team match ups have given me any interest in attending... Expand Enjoy the meeting, however if you’re expecting to see the Witches I’m afraid you’ll be disappointed.. On your point about the fans getting bored and not attending due to thrashings every week, does that really happen in sport? In my experience the biggest attendances generally come when the team is successful so I’m not sure I agree with you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 On 4/9/2025 at 5:17 AM, Arch Stanton said: Enjoy the meeting, however if you’re expecting to see the Witches I’m afraid you’ll be disappointed.. On your point about the fans getting bored and not attending due to thrashings every week, does that really happen in sport? In my experience the biggest attendances generally come when the team is successful so I’m not sure I agree with you. Expand When the play offs get confirmed so early, it can reduce attendance's at the meetings that are still left to be completed... "Dead Rubbers" against a clearly bottom 3 team don't always stimulate those less regulars that make the real difference financially.... The die hards will be the ones always there regardless... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted April 9 Author Report Share Posted April 9 On 4/9/2025 at 5:23 AM, mikebv said: When the play offs get confirmed so early, it can reduce attendance's at the meetings that are still left to be completed... "Dead Rubbers" against a clearly bottom 3 team don't always stimulate those less regulars that make the real difference financially.... The die hards will be the ones always there regardless... Expand maybe Ipswich is bit different to others, but the attendances at Foxhall seem to be consistently good no matter the opposition/competition or whether a play off place has already been confirmed. They rarely if ever, seem to drop below a noticeable level. The only visible difference is a bigger than normal increase which occurs on Bank Holidays, and when the team is doing particularly well. I guess it helps when your team has two superstars leading the team who entertain no matter what the circumstances. Always worth the entrance fee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted April 9 Author Report Share Posted April 9 Let’s hope the Oxford boys bring their trapping gloves, that’s where the action will come from. If the Witches fly out of the traps it’ll be non existent. Let’s hope the Witches are sluggish from the tapes and put the new banking to the test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 On 4/8/2025 at 9:16 PM, Arch Stanton said: You’re right. Not until Belle Vue return anyway 😁 Expand 🎪🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 On 4/8/2025 at 9:52 PM, ouch said: Gate ‘n’ go Borefest, just how they like it. Makes Birmingham look like the NSS. Expand I thought it was brilliant how gate and go it was when Emil went between Bewley and Kurtz in heat 15 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted April 9 Author Report Share Posted April 9 On 4/9/2025 at 10:20 AM, Gavan said: I thought it was brilliant how gate and go it was when Emil went between Bewley and Kurtz in heat 15 Expand Like a hot knife through butter 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 (edited) On 4/9/2025 at 10:28 AM, Arch Stanton said: Like a hot knife through butter 😁 Expand Surely with belle Vue not being a big money club,, it would be a cheaper version like,,, I can't believe it's not butter or utterly butterly 😜 Edited April 9 by Baldyman 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 On 4/9/2025 at 10:20 AM, Gavan said: I thought it was brilliant how gate and go it was when Emil went between Bewley and Kurtz in heat 15 Expand You mean heat 13. Bend 2 lap 1. Is that all you’ve got? Meanwhile, the witch tracks down his mate…….. Witch: Look, I don’t think I got my point across. It’s the fact that Belle ‘chequebook’ Vue signed a GP rider to gain success. Mate: Wait a minute, the seasons over he could only have ridden 3-4 meetings. Witch: Yes, splashing the cash, can’t stand ‘em. Mate: But Ipswich spent money on 2 GP superstars, one an ex world champion for the WHOLE season. Witch: Ones not a GP star now, that’s how we got him. Mate: You’d be better off focusing on the fact that moneybags Belle Vue cherrypicked their own GP star. How is Max by the way? Witch: They actually signed him on a 4.50 averaged and he blossomed into a GP star whilst with them. Mate: OK bad example, any other GP stars they’ve bought in like you guys? Witch : Well no, they did the same with Brady and Dan Bewley. Mate: Right, sounds like a good way of doing things, if you don’t mind me saying. Witch : I do mind. Mate: You have Tom Brennan, you looked after him from being a youngster. Witch: That was another club. We don’t need to talk about Tom. Mate: I’ve heard of Bewley, how did they get him? Witch: He started with their junior team. Mate: Junior team, what’s that? Witch: Doesn’t matter. Mate: I know about your junior GP. I bet Belle Vue don’t have anything like that. Witch : Look, I said it doesn’t matter. Mate: OK, you’re not even paying attention now anyway, you’re just playing on your phone. Are you trolling the socials again? Witch exits stage left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 On 4/9/2025 at 5:23 AM, mikebv said: When the play offs get confirmed so early, it can reduce attendance's at the meetings that are still left to be completed... "Dead Rubbers" against a clearly bottom 3 team don't always stimulate those less regulars that make the real difference financially.... The die hards will be the ones always there regardless... Expand I am considering not going this Thursday simply because I'm expecting a thrashing and travelling back from Doncaster - the BV meeting was dire. Stronger opposition then I'd be more likely to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 On 4/9/2025 at 11:32 AM, ouch said: You mean heat 13. Bend 2 lap 1. Is that all you’ve got? Meanwhile, the witch tracks down his mate…….. Witch: Look, I don’t think I got my point across. It’s the fact that Belle ‘chequebook’ Vue signed a GP rider to gain success. Mate: Wait a minute, the seasons over he could only have ridden 3-4 meetings. Witch: Yes, splashing the cash, can’t stand ‘em. Mate: But Ipswich spent money on 2 GP superstars, one an ex world champion for the WHOLE season. Witch: Ones not a GP star now, that’s how we got him. Mate: You’d be better off focusing on the fact that moneybags Belle Vue cherrypicked their own GP star. How is Max by the way? Witch: They actually signed him on a 4.50 averaged and he blossomed into a GP star whilst with them. Mate: OK bad example, any other GP stars they’ve bought in like you guys? Witch : Well no, they did the same with Brady and Dan Bewley. Mate: Right, sounds like a good way of doing things, if you don’t mind me saying. Witch : I do mind. Mate: You have Tom Brennan, you looked after him from being a youngster. Witch: That was another club. We don’t need to talk about Tom. Mate: I’ve heard of Bewley, how did they get him? Witch: He started with their junior team. Mate: Junior team, what’s that? Witch: Doesn’t matter. Mate: I know about your junior GP. I bet Belle Vue don’t have anything like that. Witch : Look, I said it doesn’t matter. Mate: OK, you’re not even paying attention now anyway, you’re just playing on your phone. Are you trolling the socials again? Witch exits stage left. Expand See earlier comment ref: inane drivel 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 46-44 witches trying to keep averages low for 2026 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 On 4/9/2025 at 1:05 PM, Falcon1983 said: 46-44 witches trying to keep averages low for 2026 Expand Somehow they’ll manage to fit everyone in again. Manipulate the system to get a rider who graduated out of the RS system in ‘24 back into it for ‘25. Probably next year will manage to slip D Thompson back into the RS scheme. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 On 4/9/2025 at 1:48 PM, StarBoy said: Somehow they’ll manage to fit everyone in again. Manipulate the system to get a rider who graduated out of the RS system in ‘24 back into it for ‘25. Probably next year will manage to slip D Thompson back into the RS scheme. Expand The league table has a familiar look to it, even at this early stage...😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP78 Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 Tungate, Wright and Sedgmen solid round Foxhall... the rest have very limited experience of the place... Witches win 60-30 for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 (edited) On 4/9/2025 at 11:32 AM, ouch said: You mean heat 13. Bend 2 lap 1. Is that all you’ve got? Meanwhile, the witch tracks down his mate…….. Witch: Look, I don’t think I got my point across. It’s the fact that Belle ‘chequebook’ Vue signed a GP rider to gain success. Mate: Wait a minute, the seasons over he could only have ridden 3-4 meetings. Witch: Yes, splashing the cash, can’t stand ‘em. Mate: But Ipswich spent money on 2 GP superstars, one an ex world champion for the WHOLE season. Witch: Ones not a GP star now, that’s how we got him. Mate: You’d be better off focusing on the fact that moneybags Belle Vue cherrypicked their own GP star. How is Max by the way? Witch: They actually signed him on a 4.50 averaged and he blossomed into a GP star whilst with them. Mate: OK bad example, any other GP stars they’ve bought in like you guys? Witch : Well no, they did the same with Brady and Dan Bewley. Mate: Right, sounds like a good way of doing things, if you don’t mind me saying. Witch : I do mind. Mate: You have Tom Brennan, you looked after him from being a youngster. Witch: That was another club. We don’t need to talk about Tom. Mate: I’ve heard of Bewley, how did they get him? Witch: He started with their junior team. Mate: Junior team, what’s that? Witch: Doesn’t matter. Mate: I know about your junior GP. I bet Belle Vue don’t have anything like that. Witch : Look, I said it doesn’t matter. Mate: OK, you’re not even paying attention now anyway, you’re just playing on your phone. Are you trolling the socials again? Witch exits stage left. Expand Just been reviewing my updates from the meeting. Two passes in heats 2 & 3 down to rider error. Genuine passes: H6 - 1 H8 - 4 H11 -1 H13 -1 H15 - 1 Discuss Edited April 9 by JamesB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchiePelago Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 On 4/9/2025 at 11:32 AM, ouch said: You mean heat 13. Bend 2 lap 1. Is that all you’ve got? Meanwhile, the witch tracks down his mate…….. Witch: Look, I don’t think I got my point across. It’s the fact that Belle ‘chequebook’ Vue signed a GP rider to gain success. Mate: Wait a minute, the seasons over he could only have ridden 3-4 meetings. Witch: Yes, splashing the cash, can’t stand ‘em. Mate: But Ipswich spent money on 2 GP superstars, one an ex world champion for the WHOLE season. Witch: Ones not a GP star now, that’s how we got him. Mate: You’d be better off focusing on the fact that moneybags Belle Vue cherrypicked their own GP star. How is Max by the way? Witch: They actually signed him on a 4.50 averaged and he blossomed into a GP star whilst with them. Mate: OK bad example, any other GP stars they’ve bought in like you guys? Witch : Well no, they did the same with Brady and Dan Bewley. Mate: Right, sounds like a good way of doing things, if you don’t mind me saying. Witch : I do mind. Mate: You have Tom Brennan, you looked after him from being a youngster. Witch: That was another club. We don’t need to talk about Tom. Mate: I’ve heard of Bewley, how did they get him? Witch: He started with their junior team. Mate: Junior team, what’s that? Witch: Doesn’t matter. Mate: I know about your junior GP. I bet Belle Vue don’t have anything like that. Witch : Look, I said it doesn’t matter. Mate: OK, you’re not even paying attention now anyway, you’re just playing on your phone. Are you trolling the socials again? Witch exits stage left. Expand Ouch! What a sad individual with, obviously, a lot of time on their hands. P.S. If I had a brother, he would be bigger than yours! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siggysigalos Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 On 4/9/2025 at 11:46 AM, 89buttons said: See earlier comment ref: inane drivel Expand At times the most pointless person on the whole forum......Absolute constant Drivel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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