therefused Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 2 minutes ago, Aries said: As they should. then why do the promoters keep lying about it. fact is if Jenkins wanted to sign for Ipswich, then he shouldnt be a rising star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 1 minute ago, therefused said: then why do the promoters keep lying about it. fact is if Jenkins wanted to sign for Ipswich, then he shouldnt be a rising star. I never said the promotors were lying. I’m just stating my opinion that riders being forced to ride somewhere because they’ve been picked is a farce that shouldn’t happen. Every rider should make the decision where they want to ride. He should have been a rising star by the way because he was on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 49 minutes ago, Aries said: As they should. I agree,just wish the powers that be would come out and say it though,rather than have us believe it is the way they have written it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petecc Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 It should be interesting to see all the new track staff and volunteer track curators next Monday. So many experts willing to give opinions. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 30 minutes ago, Petecc said: It should be interesting to see all the new track staff and volunteer track curators next Monday. So many experts willing to give opinions. There's not much anyone can do until they put some dirt on it!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 2 hours ago, AceBelle said: Sheffield as well 😜 Yes Sheffield too but always same person moaning about Ipswich and cheque book speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 (edited) 51 minutes ago, tellboy said: I agree,just wish the powers that be would come out and say it though,rather than have us believe it is the way they have written it. But we don’t know that’s definitely the case do we? The “official” line from Louis is that they were surprised and delighted when he was still available. Yes Lynn earmarked him early doors, but nobody even Louis and Jenkins themselves knew if he’d be eligible and it was a waiting game. As soon as Lynn’s team started to fall in to place and they knew Harris was going to be at reserve, perhaps their target changed? We know the links between Harris and Boughen so MAYBE Lynn chose Boughen instead with Harris’ input? Oxford had a pick before us and Jenkins is clearly a stronger rider than Killeen (at the moment), but the way the Oxford manager makes some bizarre decisions is it really that much of a surprise that he’d pick Killeen over Jenkins? None of his decisions make an ounce of sense let’s be brutally honest. People are always gonna have their suspicions on this but they might be wrong. We’ll never know for sure will we. Edited April 8 by Aries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 3 hours ago, ouch said: That’s the problem we have with the cheque book clubs and their win at all COSTS mentality. We have a pick system in place for the RS process but that gets unfairly circumnavigated by waving £££££ at a rider, thus making the whole process redundant. The cheque book comes out again to lure a rider who had spent much of the season riding at number one to replace a reserve. To add insult to injury the reserve rider left without a club has to fill the void left my the missing number one. When we released Tom to Birmingham to aid their team building on their step up, we never imagined he’d end up being poached by a money club. To be honest we shared the opinion of most that Ipswich were perfectly capable of making a strong challenge for gold with their 2024 team (we’ve heard it often enough ffs) but greed takes hold of these kind and it’s an “I’m alright Jack” attitude. An attitude at odds with UK speedway in its current financial state. It beggars belief. I’ve seen some crazy ridiculous comments on this forum over the years but this one goes straight to the top Congratulations on winning prize prat of the week award 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted April 8 Author Report Share Posted April 8 6 minutes ago, Gavan said: I’ve seen some crazy ridiculous comments on this forum over the years but this one goes straight to the top Congratulations on winning prize prat of the week award He doesn’t believe a word of what he writes. He does it for sh!ts and giggles. The very definition of a forum Troll. Ignore him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 46 minutes ago, Aries said: But we don’t know that’s definitely the case do we? The “official” line from Louis is that they were surprised and delighted when he was still available. Yes Lynn earmarked him early doors, but nobody even Louis and Jenkins themselves knew if he’d be eligible and it was a waiting game. As soon as Lynn’s team started to fall in to place and they knew Harris was going to be at reserve, perhaps their target changed? We know the links between Harris and Boughen so MAYBE Lynn chose Boughen instead with Harris’ input? Oxford had a pick before us and Jenkins is clearly a stronger rider than Killeen (at the moment), but the way the Oxford manager makes some bizarre decisions is it really that much of a surprise that he’d pick Killeen over Jenkins? None of his decisions make an ounce of sense let’s be brutally honest. People are always gonna have their suspicions on this but they might be wrong. We’ll never know for sure will we. if you dont believe it youre in cloud cuckoo land, probably because it benefits your team. there is 0% chance that Jenkins wasnt wanted by other clubs before Ipswich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 (edited) 7 minutes ago, therefused said: if you dont believe it youre in cloud cuckoo land, probably because it benefits your team. there is 0% chance that Jenkins wasnt wanted by other clubs before Ipswich. You simply don’t know that do you? You’re speculating. The explanation I’ve given above isn’t beyond the realms of possibility is it? All the Lynn fans were telling us that Boughen was requested by Harris. Is that true or not? Edited April 8 by Aries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 1 minute ago, Aries said: You simply don’t know that do you? You’re speculating. The explanation I’ve give above isn’t beyond the realms of possibility is it? All the Lynn fans were telling us that Boughen was requested by Lynn. Is that true or not? In my opinion the reason Luke Killeen is at Oxford is because he is in their Championship side and they wanted him. Why is an Australian is on the rs list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 10 minutes ago, therefused said: if you dont believe it youre in cloud cuckoo land, probably because it benefits your team. there is 0% chance that Jenkins wasnt wanted by other clubs before Ipswich. So you want it to benefit YOUR team instead by getting first dibs because you were crap the previous season? Lol The whole priority “pick” based on a completely different season’s league placings is bonkers. Why should a team get to choose the best rider first just because they were useless the previous season? It’s a different season!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 Not sure what the fuss is about where any young Brit rides....we need to support them wherever they go.... Its an expensive game and locality of a rider makes a difference when seeking sponsors etc Good luck to Jenkins, be great if he can make it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 (edited) 7 minutes ago, foreverblue said: In my opinion the reason Luke Killeen is at Oxford is because he is in their Championship side and they wanted him. Why is an Australian is on the rs list? And he’s younger, perhaps they want to give him the experience to pull him along with the future in mind? And as I said, Harris wanted Boughen at Lynn so that explains that one. It’s not pure fantasy to suggest Jenkins was genuinely available when Ipswich got their pick but @therefused would rather just blatantly call Chris Louis a liar without any evidence to back up his claim. Edited April 8 by Aries 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petecc Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 1 hour ago, GiveusaB said: There's not much anyone can do until they put some dirt on it!? No point. Some riders moaned last night that it was to wet. If you heap dirt onto a track like the "good old days" these modern engines would die. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 6 minutes ago, Steve Irving said: So you want it to benefit YOUR team instead by getting first dibs because you were crap the previous season? Lol The whole priority “pick” based on a completely different season’s league placings is bonkers. Why should a team get to choose the best rider first just because they were useless the previous season? It’s a different season!!! That’s never sat well with me either. Rewarding for failure. If you’re going to run the rising star scheme, just create a list and let everyone get on with it like they do every other rider. Would end all this nonsense stone dead. 5 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: Not sure what the fuss is about where any young Brit rides....we need to support them wherever they go.... Its an expensive game and locality of a rider makes a difference when seeking sponsors etc Good luck to Jenkins, be great if he can make it.... On the sponsors, Jenkins has cited that as one of the reasons he wanted to return to Ipswich. He’s gotten a couple of good local sponsors that help him tremendously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 5 minutes ago, Aries said: And he’s younger, perhaps they want to give him the experience to pull him along with the future in mind? And as I said, Harris wanted Boughen at Lynn so that explains that one. It’s not pure fantasy to suggest Jenkins was genuinely available when Ipswich got their pick but @therefused would rather just blatantly call Chris Louis a liar without any evidence to back up his claim. Do you have evidence Harris wanted Boughen with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 (edited) 1 minute ago, tellboy said: Do you have evidence Harris wanted Boughen with him? No I don’t, I’m just going by what you lot were saying on your 2025 thread. Do you have any evidence that Chris Louis is lying and that there wasn’t in fact, priority picks in reverse finishing order? Edited April 8 by Aries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 16 minutes ago, foreverblue said: In my opinion the reason Luke Killeen is at Oxford is because he is in their Championship side and they wanted him. Why is an Australian is on the rs list? Obviously, like Connor Bailey before him he's going to use family ties to claim British citizenship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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