M.D Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 On 4/4/2025 at 5:31 PM, gjcone44 said: even google knows speedway bikes dont get drive of concrete, i suggest you all read my statement again, apologies' not accepted, there is some rubbishe spoken on here. older generation will remember concrete start line soon got banned blue groove where do they come from? so you have been in speedway for so long and never heard a saying track was that slick its like riding on concrete. Expand It's not really important is it, this thread is about Tai. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 (edited) There's (a positive) update on Sportowefakty... Woffinden has woken from his (induced) coma according to reports. Edited April 4 by IainB 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 https://x.com/SpeedwayGB/status/1908213116770324527?s=19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 On 4/4/2025 at 5:31 PM, gjcone44 said: even google knows speedway bikes dont get drive of concrete, i suggest you all read my statement again, apologies' not accepted, there is some rubbishe spoken on here. older generation will remember concrete start line soon got banned blue groove where do they come from? so you have been in speedway for so long and never heard a saying track was that slick its like riding on concrete. Expand There is a big posting about onetime concrete starting grids, a posting by Gresham on the 15th May, 2016. Speedway tracks, apparently, used to have concrete starting grds, but were banned. 2 schools of thought were discussed as the reason. 1. due to a lip being created and the concrete grid could act as a take off ramp. 2. due to the change in surface grip, making things dangerous. Flipping at the start was also suggested. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 On 4/4/2025 at 6:00 PM, Ray Stadia said: There is a big posting about onetime concrete starting grids, a posting by Gresham on the 15th May, 2016. Speedway tracks, apparently, used to have concrete starting grds, but were banned. 2 schools of thought were discussed as the reason. 1. due to a lip being created and the concrete grid could act as a take off ramp. 2. due to the change in surface grip, making things dangerous. Flipping at the start was also suggested. Expand You're spot on. In the early days of cinder tracks it was hard to produce a good starting area, as the back wheel spinning dug big ruts, worse than the ruts dug in modern shale tracks. Also electric cables to operate the starting gate etc often ran under the track and needed protection. In those glorious days before Health & Safety, the easiest solution was to concrete over the starts. Again, as you say, this was dangerous due to a lip being created which would act as a take-off ramp, and dangers due to the increasing grip on change of surface. (As previously discussed with riders hitting a concrete kerb and taking off - the coefficient of friction between a rubber tyre and concrete is much higher than that between rubber and shale). Also, as anyone who has looped a bike will attest, landing on a shale track hurts a lot, but landing on concrete hurts a hell of a lot more. As track preparation techniques improved, with better quality shale surfaces replacing cinders, concrete starting grids were banned. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWellBehavedWorrall Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 On 4/4/2025 at 5:59 PM, IainB said: https://x.com/SpeedwayGB/status/1908213116770324527?s=19 Expand Amazing news. Delighted to hear that. Glasgow win at Armadale and Woffinden has awaken from his coma. If Carlsberg did Fridays… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 On 4/4/2025 at 7:58 PM, RoundTheBoards said: ... the easiest solution was to concrete over the starts. Again, as you say, this was dangerous due to a lip being created which would act as a take-off ramp, and dangers due to the increasing grip on change of surface. (As previously discussed with riders hitting a concrete kerb and taking off - the coefficient of friction between a rubber tyre and concrete is much higher than that between rubber and shale). Also, as anyone who has looped a bike will attest, landing on a shale track hurts a lot, but landing on concrete hurts a hell of a lot more. As track preparation techniques improved, with better quality shale surfaces replacing cinders, concrete starting grids were banned. Expand Although an intact one survives at California Country Park. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1 valve Posted April 5 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 5 On 4/5/2025 at 7:41 AM, JamesHarris said: A very poor statement (I know I'm not going to make any friends saying that!). I could just imagine his missus standing on stage at the Oscars reading that one out. Look I hope Tai gets well and pulls through ok. I also respect his right to privacy. It looked a pretty horrific crash. That said unless he is paralysed or in a vegetative state just say what he has broken etc or say nothing. It would put an end to all the speculation and false rumours that have been put out there. Expand What a very strange & insensitive comment. Clearly, as stated, the family have decided to let Tai decide when & what details are released regarding the injuries and treatments he has had to endure. In the meantime, his wife & mum have taken the opportunity to sincerely offer heartfelt thanks & recognition to the folk who in the immediate aftermath of the incident made all the right calls to save Tai from an outcome far more final than from what you think are newsworthy injuries. Those of us who share concern over the health of one of speedways greatest riders have been please to read the message and will continue to abide by the request not to speculate any further in preference to waiting for further official updates to be released at a time whenTai and his family decide is appropriate. 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 https://x.com/TWoffinden/status/1911364976704364856 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwayJoe Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 Thank you for posting this. Glad to see that Tai is out of his induced coma. Having been in an induced coma myself, he is right when he says that it really is no joke. Like everyone, sending him and his family my best wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Come on the Skipper Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 Tai has posted a reel to Facebook https://www.facebook.com/reel/675570008427768 If you can't see the reel he lists his injuries in it. Injury list 🤯 Double compound right femur fracture (pinned and bolted) Broken back TH9 plated and screwed to TH8 & TH10 Right humorous compound fracture Dislocated + smashed right elbow 12 broken ribs + punctured lung Left broken shoulderblade Dislocated left shoulder Wild typing all that out 🫠 think thats about it No wonder he was in an induced coma. Get well soon! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwayJoe Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 I’m exhausted just reading that list! It shows you how tough he is and it is amazing he is able to walk with the aid of a frame in the video given all he has been through - so inspiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONTWOMINUTES Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 On 4/14/2025 at 2:02 PM, SpeedwayJoe said: I’m exhausted just reading that list! It shows you how tough he is and it is amazing he is able to walk with the aid of a frame in the video given all he has been through - so inspiring. Expand Not forgetting the hospital team looking after him and the surgeons etc, really amazing how quickly tai has recovered so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyke Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 https://x.com/TWoffinden/status/1911801041881792934 Lads on the mend by the look of it - welcome news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 On 4/14/2025 at 3:34 PM, tyke said: https://x.com/TWoffinden/status/1911801041881792934 Lads on the mend by the look of it - welcome news Expand Great and sad to see at the same time. Speedway riders are something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 On 4/14/2025 at 4:03 PM, Bald Bloke said: Great and sad to see at the same time. Speedway riders are something else. Expand I wonder if Tai's recovery and treatment would have been as good, if he had been treated by our NHS? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 He's tough as boots and his old man but I do hope he ponders retirement after this horrible crash, he's earned millions, triple world champion, and UK's greatest ever rider nothing left to prove. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 On 4/14/2025 at 6:10 PM, YeOldPitGate said: He's tough as boots and his old man but I do hope he ponders retirement after this horrible crash, he's earned millions, triple world champion, and UK's greatest ever rider nothing left to prove. Expand Do you really think he's earned millions? Maybe, but I somehow doubt it? I do believe he has earned well, but millions might be pushing it? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 Granted we all know he won't have earned what Ronaldo has but I seem to remember reading somewhere Poland was paying 20k a meeting years back throw in Monster sponsorship then I would imagine he has earned £3-£5 mil over the last 15 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 (edited) On 4/14/2025 at 7:42 PM, Ray Stadia said: Do you really think he's earned millions? Maybe, but I somehow doubt it? I do believe he has earned well, but millions might be pushing it? Expand It says here that his new Polish club were paying him around £160,000... add that to his previous Ekstraliga earnings, Sweden, GB, GP, Monster Energy, etc. And you can easily see that totting up to millions over the years. https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/1181570/zuzel-stal-rzeszow-podjela-wazna-decyzje-w-sprawie-taia-woffindena Edited April 14 by IainB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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