King’s Lynn Stars vs Belle Vue Aces - Premiership - Mon 31/3/25

[DaveWayne]

38 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

Another belle Vue thread in less than 2 weeks that’s gone way over the top. 

like a never ending school playground fight. 

Belle Vue threads always end up like this because there are an element of BV fans on here who post like 12 year old children.

[Roger Jacobs]

1 hour ago, Aries said:

Feel a bit for Ben Cook. The fella is a decent enough little rider but he’s not and never will be, a number 1. The poor start looks as if it’s denting his confidence and the sooner he gets away from that position the better. None of the others are number 1 material either, but there’s a lot of experience in this team and a few of them would handle the position a lot better IMO. 

I have been saying for years that the Reg forcing the top average to ride at #1 is stupid - not every rider is suited to that position, and it would be much better if teams could choose.

[Roger Jacobs]

11 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:

Regulation query: Because Boughen was withdrawn before starting a 3rd heat, shouldn't King's Lynn have been 3 rider's only in heat 12 or 14??

Not totally up to date with the rules

If signed-off by the track doctor, then he can be replaced.

[stevebrum]

11 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Mind you if they had a true number one, Harris wouldn't be getting 6 or 7 rides a meeting.

I guess maybe they won't be strong enough to win when things go against them, but if they can avoid multiple efs should be able to beat anyone bar Ipswich.

Harris could still take 7 rides from other riders even with a high scoring number one.

1 hour ago, Aries said:

This just isn’t right is it. I’ve no doubt Boughen was genuinely unfit to take his third ride but if this can happen then that just opens up the door to manipulation in the future. It’s accepted that Premiership teams have six Premiership standard riders, and one up and coming rising star each for the sole reason of mixing it with better riders to help their progression in the sport. Every rising star has to take three programmed rides, no advantage to either side. The fact a club can replace their rising star with let’s face it, a seasoned heat leader despite him riding at reserve, doesn’t sit well with me. You’ve basically just been handed a bonus tactical substitution that the other club won’t have. Okay Harris only got one point in that heat but that’s not the point. If a rising star can’t fulfil their programmed rides, then that club should run heats with only one rider. Unlucky for that club yes, but that’s the way it should be. 
 

The only other way around it, is by giving the opposing club the option of replacing their rising star with their senior reserve also. Unless the injured rising star was due in heat 14 which wouldn’t allow the opposition an opportunity to replace theirs, in which case you go with one rider. 

I personally don’t get this whole certain riders shouldn’t be in reserve viewpoint.

Harris has the 6th lowest averaged rider in the Stars team so is absolutely entitled to that reserve position. It’s daunting for every other team and reserve of course it is.

It’s not like the Stars have cheated . You could say they have been very savvy in getting such a strong rider in reserve however that will be the case every month. Is that fair? Of course it is! They have the weakest top end by a mile. Is that equally as unfair?

For the Stars to succeed this season they will need solid contribution throughout the team and almost rely on the number 6 taking 6 to 7 rides every meeting. That’s their strength.

I always believed that the rider at number one will make or break a meeting result for the Stars this season.

[ouch]

2 hours ago, AceBelle said:

Authorities say it was legal not fans assumption it wasn't 🤣 so next theory question please and please don't harp on about Lambert  as well ffs 🤣 boring 😴😴 you seem to be very bitter about a Aces away win 🤣 have a nice day us Aces fans will 👍♣️🏆

Please stop quoting these trolls. 

Where the hell has Zagar being against the rules come from? Trolling at its finest from a seasoned expert along with its ability to throw insults about for no reason. Grim. 

Bit rich when thinking about the cheating from Ipswich in the last few seasons (Crump, Klindt, Pearson) and the Tom scenario during last season. Their win at all costs (and it costs them a lot) is the kind of behaviour UK speedway can ill afford these days. 

[SaddlebowRoad]

2 hours ago, therefused said:

im not, unprofessionalism cost us in the end. 

thats a very black and white way of looking at it

if everything was done by the riders and their mechanics to prevent those things occurring then its just misfortune

high performance machinery breaks down from time to time just one of those things 

[SamKM91]

3 hours ago, Danny Connor said:

He held Bewley off well in ht 13 and was on a 5 - 1 when his mechanical issue occurred. There is plenty of positives for him to take. There's a platform to build from!!

Kurtz also should have been disqualified for having both wheels over the white line in ht 13

[AceBelle]

3 hours ago, TTT said:

Despite the defeat imo, King's Lynn came out of last night's meeting with more positives than Belle Vue.

Everyone at King's Lynn should be thinking of the positives rather than the negatives because there's a lot to be encouraged about last night imo.

King's Lynn's top two only scored 6+1 between them and it still only resulted in a 2 point defeat due to three 5-1's turning into three shared Heats which would've resulted in an easy 10 point win on the night, A winning margin that most forum members predicted before the off.

The defending Champions Belle Vue are being branded as one of Ipswich's main threats this season (Bookies 2nd Favourites), Unlike Oxford who are nailed on for the wooden spoon (On Paper) and King's Lynn's rock solid 1-7 with no real big hitters proved that they could more than compete with Belle Vue around the AFA.

Where's what have Belle Vue really got to gloat about, They won but it was only due to the other teams misfortunes, They'll know full well that they cant rely on that happening to the opposition every week so in reality they still need to improve drastically if they want to defend their title.

Living rent free in you're head 🤣♣️🏆 come back when you have won it if you do 🤔🤣

[SUPERACE]

4 hours ago, TTT said:

I don't know why Aces fans are going over the top for, Yes you finished the meeting well as I said last night and you won the meeting by 2 points but the warnings signs are still lingering in regards to the Belle Vue 1-7.

Got to take into account that If it wasn't for King's Lynn's issues earlier in the meeting it would have resulted in a third straight double digit defeat for Belle Vue this season (50 - 40).

I'd be happy with the win but I'd also be very wary at the same time because it was far from convincing and you needed alot of luck against a team that doesn't have an out and out No.1/No.5.

Why, we would have had tac subs which would have almost certainly reduced that by 4, and KL got stronger by AB getting injured (would have seen that score reduced again).  There only 1 score that matters, it was 44-46 to the Aces.  BV will get stronger as the season goes on Tate will get better the more he rides as he gets over his injury, Blodorn will improve as i expect will Zach Cook, Mulford already showing an improvement on last year.  KL lucky Dan was not at his 100% best, there's always reasons, but reasons don get you the 2 points. 

[AceBelle]

35 minutes ago, SamKM91 said:

Kurtz also should have been disqualified for having both wheels over the white line in ht 13

🤣🤣🤣🤣 jesus clutching here 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[AceBelle]

38 minutes ago, SamKM91 said:

Kurtz also should have been disqualified for having both wheels over the white line in ht 13

🤣🤣🤣🤣 jesus clutching here 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[SUPERACE]

2 hours ago, stevebrum said:

Harris could still take 7 rides from other riders even with a high scoring number one.

I personally don’t get this whole certain riders shouldn’t be in reserve viewpoint.

Harris has the 6th lowest averaged rider in the Stars team so is absolutely entitled to that reserve position. It’s daunting for every other team and reserve of course it is.

It’s not like the Stars have cheated . You could say they have been very savvy in getting such a strong rider in reserve however that will be the case every month. Is that fair? Of course it is! They have the weakest top end by a mile. Is that equally as unfair?

For the Stars to succeed this season they will need solid contribution throughout the team and almost rely on the number 6 taking 6 to 7 rides every meeting. That’s their strength.

I always believed that the rider at number one will make or break a meeting result for the Stars this season.

With a high scoring number 1 Harris wouldn't be a reserve has he wouldn't fit. 

[SUPERACE]

3 hours ago, PhilTheAce said:

Another belle Vue thread in less than 2 weeks that’s gone way over the top. 
 

like a never ending school playground fight. 
 

end of the day Belle Vue get the win

 

kings lynn very unlucky to lose but that’s sport im afraid. Both sets of supporters can certainly be happy with last night. 
 

im not going to get ahead of myself as that result certainly painted over the cracks of our side but a wins a win. 
 

well done Zach on gaining your first race win in our colours and that ride arguably won us the meeting. 
 

 

Its what happens when you start winning titles, everyone wants you to lose.  Its better than Belle Vue'd it though😂

[AceBelle]

More than likely we upset a few doubters last night with Aces winning they were probably ready to post & slag us off again for losing 🤣 hence giving us no credit for winning 🤣 plenty more of that to come 😉 Champions until someone takes it off us 🏆♣️

[Bald Bloke]

2 hours ago, SaddlebowRoad said:

thats a very black and white way of looking at it

if everything was done by the riders and their mechanics to prevent those things occurring then its just misfortune

high performance machinery breaks down from time to time just one of those things 

If Bens e/f was a broken fuel pipe as you say, then that was poor prep for me. Start of the season, with newly built bikes.. A split or perished pipe, or if the pipe came off, could of been avoided with a few quid's worth of new pipe and clips on a  prepped bike. Not picking on him, just being fair on this one. 

Edited Tuesday at 01:50 PM by Bald Bloke
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[therefused]

wow this forum really is the pits at times. 

[TTT]

15 minutes ago, SUPERACE said:

Why, we would have had tac subs which would have almost certainly reduced that by 4, and KL got stronger by AB getting injured (would have seen that score reduced again).  There only 1 score that matters, it was 44-46 to the Aces.  BV will get stronger as the season goes on Tate will get better the more he rides as he gets over his injury, Blodorn will improve as i expect will Zach Cook, Mulford already showing an improvement on last year.  KL lucky Dan was not at his 100% best, there's always reasons, but reasons don get you the 2 points. 

You still would've lost even if you used a Tactical ride and got a 5-1 from it which says it all really.

I'm not even on a wind up, I just genuinely don't see how Belle Vue can find any positives out of last night other than being gift wrapped the win through lady luck.

[TTT]

This meeting was basically the Speedway equivalent of the UEFA Champions League 1st Leg between PSG and Liverpool.

The much better team on the night lost due to various things going against them.

[Pinny]

Have seen many meetings down the years where teams have lost out due to engine failures. It happens.

It is a bitter pill to swallow knowing your side was the better side and still lose out.

Lynn desperately need Cook to start firing.

[AceBelle]

20 minutes ago, TTT said:

This meeting was basically the Speedway equivalent of the UEFA Champions League 1st Leg between PSG and Liverpool.

The much better team on the night lost due to various things going against them.

Unlike that result Liverpool will take all 3pts next Monday 🤣🏆♣️