gazzac Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 (edited) 2 hours ago, The White Knight said: I don't like the GP System. I believe that, to a point, Speedway lost it's soul following the scrapping of the 'one off' Final. I loved the 'one off' World Finals though. Excitement, tension, gnawed finger nails right through to the end of the Meeting. It was great in those days. Saw 2 at the old Wembley with I think a 90000ish crowd, was rather special Olsen and Penhall winning with Gordon Kennett coming so close in one, losing out by a point if I remember correctly. Edited April 7 by gazzac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB723 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 There are positives and negatives for both formats (finals vs just 20 heats) maybe for the top 6 format the two straight through to the final have a match race (with the top scorer choosing gates) after the semi to decide who gets first gate pick? Would at least mean the tyres are all in the same condition and will let the top 2 see the track after the final grading (also gives 1 more race for fans). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 5 hours ago, soupy said: Anybody else think it was an advantage to ride in the semi final than go straight into the final as they have an edge with already being used.Well done Bomber. One option to counter that, would be top 4 into the final & do away with the semi final. While I don't like finals feel 4th winning is preferable to 6th winning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fortythirtyeight Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 On 4/7/2025 at 1:00 PM, IainB said: I can't understand it, everybody should have a 2nd tyre ready before the meeting, if it doesn't get used, just use it for the next meeting, it's not rocket science is it? If you actually knew the rules then you would realise this is not permitted. wish I had 20p for every time you bring this up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 1 minute ago, Fortythirtyeight said: If you actually knew the rules then you would realise this is not permitted. wish I had 20p for every time you bring this up. I wish I had 20p for every time I said change the rules then 💰 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 Just now, IainB said: I wish I had 20p for every time I said change the rules then 💰 and that’s never happened either…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 Just now, Fortythirtyeight said: and that’s never happened either…. So we're running the same rules that we had in 1928? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 3 hours ago, Fortythirtyeight said: If you actually knew the rules then you would realise this is not permitted. wish I had 20p for every time you bring this up. 3 hours ago, Fortythirtyeight said: If you actually knew the rules then you would realise this is not permitted. wish I had 20p for every time you bring this up. 3 hours ago, Fortythirtyeight said: If you actually knew the rules then you would realise this is not permitted. wish I had 20p for every time you bring this up. Why can’t organisation not supply wheels and tyres then,then take rims back for next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 56 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Why can’t organisation not supply wheels and tyres then,then take rims back for next time. So a rider has a sponsorship with a certain manufacturer and wins it using a different manufacturer's wheel not good for him . What if some riders use conventional tubes and others don't . What if the rider likes his wheel balanced and another doesn't 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 12 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said: So a rider has a sponsorship with a certain manufacturer and wins it using a different manufacturer's wheel not good for him . What if some riders use conventional tubes and others don't . What if the rider likes his wheel balanced and another doesn't Thanks. was just asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 (edited) 20 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said: So a rider has a sponsorship with a certain manufacturer and wins it using a different manufacturer's wheel not good for him . What if some riders use conventional tubes and others don't . What if the rider likes his wheel balanced and another doesn't Simple, it's highly unlikely that a rider competing in such a competition does not own 2 back wheels. They are issued with (pay for) 2 tyres before the meeting to fit and have ready to go in the event of qualification for the semi and/or final. If the tyre is not used it is used in their next meeting or bought back by the issuer. This should not be beyond the wit of man. Edited April 8 by IainB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 22 minutes ago, IainB said: Simple, it's highly unlikely that a rider competing in such a competition does not own 2 back wheels. They are issued with (pay for) 2 tyres before the meeting to fit and have ready to go in the event of qualification for the semi and/or final. If the tyre is not used it is used in their next meeting or bought back by the issuer. This should not be beyond the wit of man. Yep but that's not the question I answered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 4 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Yep but that's not the question I answered I know... I was answering your 2 questions. It's either that or we all stand around for half an hour like spare pricks at a wedding waiting for it all to be decided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted yesterday at 11:02 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:02 AM On 4/8/2025 at 8:33 PM, Fromafar said: Why can’t organisation not supply wheels and tyres then,then take rims back for next time. You think the ‘organisation’ are going to buy 4/8 rear wheels at £300+ a go just to save a few minutes of your time ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted yesterday at 11:03 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:03 AM On 4/8/2025 at 10:17 PM, IainB said: I know... I was answering your 2 questions. It's either that or we all stand around for half an hour like spare pricks at a wedding waiting for it all to be decided. Well you certainly fit in then. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted yesterday at 12:12 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:12 PM 1 hour ago, Fortythirtyeight said: Well you certainly fit in then. Thanks for your kind words but I've long since stopped attending these events after spending literally hours of my life waiting around while absolutely nothing is happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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