Championship Pairs April 5th 3pm (Workington)

[Fromafar]

Thought the Ref was right to exclude Kerr.While it was tight going into the corner  a gap appear before Kerr drifted into Riss.Kerr should have been able to handle the situation.Dont think Riss “parked” it.

[mikebaker]

Where were Harris and Howarth for the presentation proceedings. They were third.

[Chris]

Correct decision in the final looking at the video. Riss got over the top of Kerr and never locked up in front of Kerr. Think Kerr was surprised/panicked by Riss getting over the top of him and lost control momentarily causing the collision.

Edited Saturday at 11:17 PM by Chris

[A.N.Other]

3 hours ago, SteelShoe said:

Some cracking racing after the first 4 heats following a track grade which created more of an outside dirt line. Dust was kept to minimum and was not really an issue so well done to Steve and Andrew on that one.

It was great to see Nicolai Klindt back in Worky and he reminded Comets fans of the rider that played a big part in the 2018 Comets trophy treble, he is some gater.

Congratulations to the Redcar Bears who have a great record in recent years in this competition, there fans attended in numbers and they were well rewarded.  For what it's worth after watching a replay of the final on Facebook I think the ref got the decision right in excluding Lewis Kerr.

Thanks to all the fans that made the effort to attend today, crowds do help make these occasions that bit more special. The temperature differential in the stadium between the sunny and shady sides was very noticeable and at least a top coat difference on the shady side due to the chilly stiff north easterly breeze.

It was absolutely BALTIC on the back straight stand !  I have never felt so cold in my life. Being in the shade all afternoon didnt help. As soon as left the stadium and passed through the entrance gate, the temperature shot up incredibly !  How weird !

[szkocjasid]

While I can understand arguments for and against the refs decision, some of the comments on FB especially are so over the top.

Saying Riss pulled a massive locker, almost stopped the bike dead, parked it in front of Kerr etc.

If you watch Riss going into the bend & ignore Kerr for a moment, you'll see he doesn't lock up much at all & may even feel he's a fault. But let's be realistic about what actually happened!

[Wild Man Vic]

I think it was Lewis Kerr that said when interviewed that the riders had been told that there would be no watering of the track between the semi-finals and the final - which seems a fair point - it doesn't happen in the Grand Prix where they also just run the three races.

However, the track was watered between the semi-finals and the final and I can't help but think that could well have been a contributory factor in the incident happening, especially as the part of the track where it happened was in the shade, which would probably have made it a little greasier than where the water was placed on the other bends as they were still in the sunlight.

[Weeyin]

6 hours ago, A.N.Other said:

It was absolutely BALTIC on the back straight stand !  I have never felt so cold in my life. Being in the shade all afternoon didnt help. As soon as left the stadium and passed through the entrance gate, the temperature shot up incredibly !  How weird !

I agree, didn't realise the difference in temperature , was wondering why Roy was saying the weather was wonderful and We were absolutely frozen in the back straight seating area, I will remember that next time I go to Workington

[SteelShoe]

6 hours ago, A.N.Other said:

It was absolutely BALTIC on the back straight stand !  I have never felt so cold in my life. Being in the shade all afternoon didnt help. As soon as left the stadium and passed through the entrance gate, the temperature shot up incredibly !  How weird !

Although the sun is quite strong in April that wind was coming off the North Sea which is around 8 Celsius this time of year.   We aimed for the sunny side and it was a sound decision. 

[SteelShoe]

7 hours ago, mikebaker said:

Where were Harris and Howarth for the presentation proceedings. They were third.

I think some sort of apology from the Glasgow management would be a fitting gesture here. It just looked a bit disrespectful, may just have been an oversight ?.

[IainB]

7 hours ago, mikebaker said:

Where were Harris and Howarth for the presentation proceedings. They were third.

Probably at home tucking into their dinners it took so long to run!

[Catch Me If You Can]

13 minutes ago, IainB said:

Probably at home tucking into their dinners it took so long to run!

Spot on  180 minutes for 20 minutes racing! Riders Champs thing be no better today

Oxford be happy as their second  pair won the Pairs !

Edited yesterday at 07:13 AM by Catch Me If You Can

[Triple.H.]

1 hour ago, SteelShoe said:

Although the sun is quite strong in April that wind was coming off the North Sea which is around 8 Celsius this time of year.   We aimed for the sunny side and it was a sound decision. 

Must have been gale force to have made it across from the east coast

[IainB]

37 minutes ago, Catch Me If You Can said:

Spot on  180 minutes for 20 minutes racing! Riders Champs thing be no better today

It's why I stopped going to these events, waiting around for 20 minutes for riders to just change tyres completely ruins the event for me, something that could be ready before the meeting even starts!

[IainB]

1 hour ago, SteelShoe said:

I think some sort of apology from the Glasgow management would be a fitting gesture here. It just looked a bit disrespectful, may just have been an oversight ?.

Maybe it was out of respect for Prince Charles recent stay in hospital... or something 😂

[Blue Groove]

9 hours ago, A.N.Other said:

It was absolutely BALTIC on the back straight stand !  I have never felt so cold in my life. Being in the shade all afternoon didnt help. As soon as left the stadium and passed through the entrance gate, the temperature shot up incredibly !  How weird !

Yes, that area is always shaded by the trees in the afternoon, made worse by the cold easterly wind yesterday.  Should've walked round to the start/finish straight like I did, no wind and in the sun on that side, a lot of people must've done the same because the back straight seats were half empty later on in the meeting.

[geoff100]

33 minutes ago, IainB said:

It's why I stopped going to these events, waiting around for 20 minutes for riders to just change tyres completely ruins the event for me, something that could be ready before the meeting even starts!

Tyres were changed then they had to toss coins in the make shift tv studio no thought given to the fans stood around waiting.

[szkocjasid]

17 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

It seems odd to complain about riders trying, but I keep reading on the updates the rider in 2nd in a 5-4 heat advantage, passed the rider in 1st (during the last 3 heats) and I think why bother? Hope they didn't take any risks doing so.

 

14 hours ago, crescent girl said:

Points money?

I was under the impression it was a flat fee all round, don't know if that is correct or has changed.

Having watched the re-run of the final, Riss rode sensibly, even though he didn't need the win, it wasn't like he tried a crazy pass that could've cost Redcar the title.

[SteelShoe]

3 hours ago, IainB said:

Probably at home tucking into their dinners it took so long to run!

Wasn't that bad was it ? 21 heats, 2 semi finals with all that entails, crash in the final with a rerun,  2 incidents that required the ref to leave the box to check on a bigger screen and grading every four heats with BSN etc. Probably felt too long for the supporters in the shady windier side who will have felt the cold. Cardiff GP 22 heats always took 3 hours.

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

Didn’t really notice the length of time, suppose if you pick where the sun is and where you’re sheltered from wind, it helps. 

[SteveLyric2]

10 hours ago, Wild Man Vic said:

I think it was Lewis Kerr that said when interviewed that the riders had been told that there would be no watering of the track between the semi-finals and the final - which seems a fair point - it doesn't happen in the Grand Prix where they also just run the three races.

However, the track was watered between the semi-finals and the final and I can't help but think that could well have been a contributory factor in the incident happening, especially as the part of the track where it happened was in the shade, which would probably have made it a little greasier than where the water was placed on the other bends as they were still in the sunlight.

Eric Riss also mentioned the greasy surface on that part of the track,  which contributed to the crash. No blame to either rider. Just unfortunate with both Kerr and Riss now withdrawn from the CLRC!!