noaksey Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 Borrowing a significant amount of money from an external source doesn't seem to be a good fit with the fan ownership model Presumably "the fans" would then be responsible for paying back the loan regardless of what happens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 1 hour ago, noaksey said: Borrowing a significant amount of money from an external source doesn't seem to be a good fit with the fan ownership model Presumably "the fans" would then be responsible for paying back the loan regardless of what happens Best bet is to find a wealthy sponsor or backer borrowing the money without knowing how successful the venture will be is very risky- if I’d pledged money as a fan Id withdraw it if the 100 or so fans are deemed responsible for repaying for any loan if that’s the route they go down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 2 hours ago, Haza said: Best bet is to find a wealthy sponsor or backer borrowing the money without knowing how successful the venture will be is very risky- if I’d pledged money as a fan Id withdraw it if the 100 or so fans are deemed responsible for repaying for any loan if that’s the route they go down That would be a tough ask I guess, sponsors are hard to find at the best of times and this seems like a significant amount for this level of speedway. We can only wish them well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 Just a thought, could they not use old tyres to cover the upright RSJs? Which could be put on and taken off some how? I would imagine the cables wouldn't/couldn't be taken down for speedway, but actually, the cables may help with rider protection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 45 minutes ago, Ray Stadia said: Just a thought, could they not use old tyres to cover the upright RSJs? Which could be put on and taken off some how? I would imagine the cables wouldn't/couldn't be taken down for speedway, but actually, the cables may help with rider protection? In a word, no.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 On 3/6/2025 at 6:44 PM, M.D said: In a word, no.. With respect, how do you know it's no? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binman Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 54 minutes ago, Ray Stadia said: With respect, how do you know it's no? 🤔 Can't believe it's got to this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 Just found this Speedway Forum post from @norbold regarding the ill-fated 2002 Wimbledon revival and its promoters: It was definitely Dave Cro ucher and Steve Ribbons who were behind the Wimbledon revival. They commissioned my book "Two Wimbldeon Legends" to launch on opening night. I offered to do it for nothing as long as they paid the printing costs, which they agreed. When I gave them the invoice from the printers, they both said I should speak to the other one about it and both denied ever making the agreement. In fact they both made it as I met both of them to talk about it. It took me over a year and various threats of legal action to get anything out of them and even then it only amounted to some of the cash and a number of complimentary copies of the book. Oh yes, it was those two all right. I'm not likely to forget it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 7 hours ago, Ray Stadia said: With respect, how do you know it's no? 🤔 Tyres around a metal post that close to the track would offer very little protection for a rider and would not, thankfully, be approved anymore. it would be potentially lethal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 7 hours ago, Binman said: Can't believe it's got to this point Agree but Ray has asked a question, hopefully his question has been answered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 9 hours ago, RoundTheBoards said: Just found this Speedway Forum post from @norbold regarding the ill-fated 2002 Wimbledon revival and its promoters: It was definitely Dave Cro ucher and Steve Ribbons who were behind the Wimbledon revival. They commissioned my book "Two Wimbldeon Legends" to launch on opening night. I offered to do it for nothing as long as they paid the printing costs, which they agreed. When I gave them the invoice from the printers, they both said I should speak to the other one about it and both denied ever making the agreement. In fact they both made it as I met both of them to talk about it. It took me over a year and various threats of legal action to get anything out of them and even then it only amounted to some of the cash and a number of complimentary copies of the book. Oh yes, it was those two all right. I'm not likely to forget it! Am correct in thinking Ribbons was involved with the aim to bring speedway back to Norwich? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 4 hours ago, M.D said: Tyres around a metal post that close to the track would offer very little protection for a rider and would not, thankfully, be approved anymore. it would be potentially lethal. A metal post set in concrete isn’t going to move how ever much protection is put around it I really can’t see how speedway can return to West Row now the stock car fence has been installed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 10 hours ago, RoundTheBoards said: Just found this Speedway Forum post from @norbold regarding the ill-fated 2002 Wimbledon revival and its promoters: It was definitely Dave Cro ucher and Steve Ribbons who were behind the Wimbledon revival. They commissioned my book "Two Wimbldeon Legends" to launch on opening night. I offered to do it for nothing as long as they paid the printing costs, which they agreed. When I gave them the invoice from the printers, they both said I should speak to the other one about it and both denied ever making the agreement. In fact they both made it as I met both of them to talk about it. It took me over a year and various threats of legal action to get anything out of them and even then it only amounted to some of the cash and a number of complimentary copies of the book. Oh yes, it was those two all right. I'm not likely to forget it! Correct! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 5 hours ago, Haza said: Am correct in thinking Ribbons was involved with the aim to bring speedway back to Norwich? yes, another half arsed job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 There is a (hugely more expensive) answer but you'd need Poole level crowds to afford it. Put a foam fence to the height of the concrete fence all the way round the track, then add a higher foam fence that sat on top of the lower one and encased the poles. (Those foam fences like at KL / Glasgow dont give an inch on impact but cushion) The cost would be enormous but the height might be an issue too for 3 reasons (1) visibility for spectators (2) efectiveness of lights e.g a black spot near fence like Leicester used to have (3) on rare occasions a bike can clear a fence and at least be out of the way it would "bounce back" from a dangerous height on to the track. THere is always plan g - sneak in one night and grind the things off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Havent been to mildenhall in a while but wouldn’t it be feasible to build a new track at the back of the current stadium by the motox track, not sure who owns the land but it is surrounded by fields 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 It would probably be cheaper financially to put a new Track in a nearby field, and just use whatever facilities are available at the Stadium such as Car Parking etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayleigh Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 I cant believe "Round the Boards", "Norbold", "Haza" and "ch958." Firstly the accusation of Wimbledon is your version only and you use the platform to sink the Mildenhall project, so sad. In 1999 he and a friend relaunched Rye House without a home and from that success Rye House returned to Hoddesdon and ran for 18 years. He got closer to re-launching Norwich than anyone is 61 years He had already got Mildenhall back before and it was not him who closed it Kent Kings closed in 2022 and guess who not only reopened it, yes your nemesis Steve Ribbons, they played to crowds as big as 750 for 3rd division racing, it was so successful that Eastbourne are now running a league team at the venue. Oh and he was so bad at Iwade that a number of the staff have offered their help at Mildenhall 2025. If you all have personal issues with Mr Ribbons take it up with him DONT come on here with the intention to scuppering the ONLY hope Mildenhall have of returning to racing or prehaps you plan to reopen it yourselves? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyd Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 On 3/8/2025 at 9:09 AM, Haza said: Am correct in thinking Ribbons was involved with the aim to bring speedway back to Norwich? There is a nice quote in Len Silvers book regarding Steve Ribbons and the return of Rye House after a phone call from Hazal to Len when the facilities were (supposedly) being installed in the winter of 1999-2000. "No-one knows what to do or how to do it. Steve Ribbons is full of promises but not much else and your definitely needed here." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 1 hour ago, Rayleigh said: I cant believe "Round the Boards", "Norbold", "Haza" and "ch958." Firstly the accusation of Wimbledon is your version only and you use the platform to sink the Mildenhall project, so sad. In 1999 he and a friend relaunched Rye House without a home and from that success Rye House returned to Hoddesdon and ran for 18 years. He got closer to re-launching Norwich than anyone is 61 years He had already got Mildenhall back before and it was not him who closed it Kent Kings closed in 2022 and guess who not only reopened it, yes your nemesis Steve Ribbons, they played to crowds as big as 750 for 3rd division racing, it was so successful that Eastbourne are now running a league team at the venue. Oh and he was so bad at Iwade that a number of the staff have offered their help at Mildenhall 2025. If you all have personal issues with Mr Ribbons take it up with him DONT come on here with the intention to scuppering the ONLY hope Mildenhall have of returning to racing or prehaps you plan to reopen it yourselves? Why can't you believe me? Tell me what in my post was factually wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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