Reward for league champions

[SCS]

Just been looking through the different teams that have been built in both the Premiership and Championship leagues. I would think some teams are clearly more expensive than others who compete in the same league, so is there a prize for which ever team who wins the league? As I have been told all teams pay fees each year to be able to compete in league racing and a winning team must be more expensive if there riders are scoring more points. 

[Fortythirtyeight]

On 12/28/2024 at 7:13 PM, SCS said:

Just been looking through the different teams that have been built in both the Premiership and Championship leagues. I would think some teams are clearly more expensive than others who compete in the same league, so is there a prize for which ever team who wins the league? As I have been told all teams pay fees each year to be able to compete in league racing and a winning team must be more expensive if there riders are scoring more points. 

The prize is a trophy costing about £30 but you do get to keep it and then disband your victorious team for the next season. 

[IainB]

Didn't the Poole lot go to Vegas?

[mikebv]

11 hours ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

The prize is a trophy costing about £30 but you do get to keep it and then disband your victorious team for the next season. 

A bargain.. 😀

[Fortythirtyeight]

20 hours ago, IainB said:

Didn't the Poole lot go to Vegas?

You know they did and you also know the promoter paid for it himself, it wasnt a ‘prize’.

[IainB]

58 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

You know they did and you also know the promoter paid for it himself, it wasnt a ‘prize’.

A bit passive aggressive... if it wasn't a prize, what was it? Do you think would they have gone if they hadn't won? 🎰

Edited December 30, 2024 by IainB

[Fortythirtyeight]

17 hours ago, IainB said:

A bit passive aggressive... if it wasn't a prize, what was it? Do you think would they have gone if they hadn't won? 🎰

As always you are just fishing for a bite, how sad.

[IainB]

19 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

As always you are just fishing for a bite, how sad.

It was a simple question that you've elected not to answer.

[foreverblue]

20 hours ago, IainB said:

A bit passive aggressive... if it wasn't a prize, what was it? Do you think would they have gone if they hadn't won? 🎰

Of course they would not have gone if they had not won but it was paid for by Poole as a thankyou. 

[IainB]

1 hour ago, foreverblue said:

Of course they would not have gone if they had not won but it was paid for by Poole as a thankyou. 

a bit like a prize, you could say 🤔😁

[RoundTheBoards]

39 minutes ago, IainB said:

a bit like a prize, you could say 🤔😁

If I go on a TV quiz show and win a trip to Las Vegas for the family, that's a prize.

If I pay to take my family to Las Vegas, that's just a holiday.

Other than a trophy, there is no prize for the 2nd division winners in Speedway, but Poole did take their riders on a holiday.

Hope that helps explain.

[IainB]

8 minutes ago, RoundTheBoards said:

If I go on a TV quiz show and win a trip to Las Vegas for the family, that's a prize.

If I pay to take my family to Las Vegas, that's just a holiday.

Other than a trophy, there is no prize for the 2nd division winners in Speedway, but Poole did take their riders on a holiday.

Hope that helps explain.

Well, not really, no. The Poole riders are not family and their trip to Vegas was conditional on them winning the League title... that, my friend, is, what us speakers of English, call a prize 

Edited December 31, 2024 by IainB

[arnieg]

I've yet to see a TV quiz show where the prize is that you get to pay for your own holiday 🫢

[IainB]

11 minutes ago, arnieg said:

I've yet to see a TV quiz show where the prize is that you get to pay for your own holiday 🫢

Are you saying that the Poole riders had to pay their own way?

I genuinely don't know, which is why I asked the question in the first place (when I was allegedly, fishing 🎣)

Similarly... didn't Reading get £100k or something back in the day (Dave Lanning era), put up by the promotion?

Edited December 31, 2024 by IainB

[arnieg]

24 minutes ago, IainB said:

Are you saying that the Poole riders had to pay their own way?

I genuinely don't know, which is why I asked the question in the first place (when I was allegedly, fishing 🎣)

Similarly... didn't Reading get £100k or something back in the day (Dave Lanning era), put up by the promotion?

No and No

The 'prize' goes to the club. [Footballers get nothing for winning the league except a medal. The prize goes to the club - £63 million in Man City's case]. Did the Poole promotion get a prize ? No. Did they decide to incentives their riders by offering them a win bonus in the form of a holiday - yes.

The Reading prize was simply a bet at a bookies [called Lloyd's of London]. Had another team won the league the only winners would have been the Lloyd's underwriters  bookies.

[IainB]

44 minutes ago, arnieg said:

No and No

The 'prize' goes to the club. [Footballers get nothing for winning the league except a medal. The prize goes to the club - £63 million in Man City's case]. Did the Poole promotion get a prize ? No. Did they decide to incentives their riders by offering them a win bonus in the form of a holiday - yes.

The Reading prize was simply a bet at a bookies [called Lloyd's of London]. Had another team won the league the only winners would have been the Lloyd's underwriters  bookies.

I bet Man City's players were on win, goal and title bonuses. 

Yes, we all know there is no prize money for winning the league from the BSPL, the club will see the "prize" of increased attendances, maybe additional sponsorship, the riders may have clauses written into their contacts or the promotion may give them the "prize" of a trip to Vegas. 

Call it incentive, bonus or prize it's semantics really and I'm not going to argue the toss over it. 

Did Reading get their £100k?

[SCS]

I was meaning a prize from the speedway authorities and I think you knew what i was meaning IainB 😂 

[arnieg]

1 hour ago, IainB said:

I bet Man City's players were on win, goal and title bonuses. 

Yes, we all know there is no prize money for winning the league from the BSPL, the club will see the "prize" of increased attendances, maybe additional sponsorship, the riders may have clauses written into their contacts or the promotion may give them the "prize" of a trip to Vegas. 

Call it incentive, bonus or prize it's semantics really and I'm not going to argue the toss over it. 

Did Reading get their £100k?

You seem to confusing prize with contractual obligation.

Reading speedway won their bet and got their £50,000. £40,000  went to the riders and the owning promotion kept the rest. Dave Lanning [the 1980 managing promoter) then sued for the share of the bonus.

[IainB]

13 minutes ago, arnieg said:

You seem to confusing prize with contractual obligation.

Reading speedway won their bet and got their £50,000. £40,000  went to the riders and the owning promotion kept the rest. Dave Lanning [the 1980 managing promoter) then sued for the share of the bonus.

No, not confused at all, you suggested that Footballers only got medals, I suggested otherwise... Was the Vegas trip in the Poole riders contracts?

[martinmauger]

Recall reading at least one other team, coulda bin Poole ?, were rewarded with a holiday by their promotion.  The late Len Silver often took his riders on skiing holidays.

Getting to the (prob intended) point: give the team finishing top a trophy: League Winners, then play off winners a trophy also: League Champions = everyone happy.😀  "Simples", as a certain meerkat would say😉....