Belle Vue Double GP 2025

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39 minutes ago, Ray Stadia said:

As Coventry staged a GP in the past and successfully, as I recall, perhaps the GP organisers could have taken the opportunity to try and buy the stadium, to have as a British GP 'flagship', but with Belle Vue as a second British GP venue? 

Absolute practical solution, but remember something so simple would never work, remember this is Speedway 🤣

[Sir Sidney]

2 hours ago, Ray Stadia said:

As Coventry staged a GP in the past and successfully, as I recall, perhaps the GP organisers could have taken the opportunity to try and buy the stadium, to have as a British GP 'flagship', but with Belle Vue as a second British GP venue? 

Why do you think the stadium owners  would have any interest in selling to WBD when they have shown no interest in selling to anyone else? 

Edited 21 hours ago by Sir Sidney

[Gambo]

2 hours ago, Ray Stadia said:

As Coventry staged a GP in the past and successfully, as I recall, perhaps the GP organisers could have taken the opportunity to try and buy the stadium, to have as a British GP 'flagship', but with Belle Vue as a second British GP venue? 

The Stadium was not put 'on the market as a Sports facility' when the Bank forced the sale. I'm led to believe that there was also a bit of 'insider trading/dodgy dealing' shall we say before Brandon Estates got the Stadium.

[Ray Stadia]

2 hours ago, Sir Sidney said:

Why do you think the stadium owners  would have any interest in selling to WBD when they have shown no interest in selling to anyone else? 

I don't know, but corporates talking to corporates might have more sway than action groups talking to corporates? Surely the stadium is a bit of a 'thorn in the side' for BE? 

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8 hours ago, Gambo said:

The Stadium was not put 'on the market as a Sports facility' when the Bank forced the sale. I'm led to believe that there was also a bit of 'insider trading/dodgy dealing' shall we say before Brandon Estates got the Stadium.

There was no insider trading simply because it was a deal done between two private companies. One, who had originally acquired the stadium for housing development but had a change of plan plan and one (another developer) who was offered the stadium/land when the incumbent ran out of available capital. 
What followed from then up to the present day is well known. 🤷‍♂️

One things for sure is that a tv company would not be remotely interested in acquiring Brandon to stage one or two GP meetings. 

 

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11 hours ago, Ray Stadia said:

As Coventry staged a GP in the past and successfully, as I recall, perhaps the GP organisers could have taken the opportunity to try and buy the stadium, to have as a British GP 'flagship', but with Belle Vue as a second British GP venue? 

Unfortunately a none goer from the start as no TV company would see any financial benefit in doing as you suggest. 
The reason? Besides running stadiums is not their core activity, to buy Brandon, remove the existing derelict building & then build something capable of holding a GP akin to BV would cost in the region of ten million pounds. This type of investment would require a return (profit) of at least one million pounds per year before inflation - which of course is just not feasible.    

 

[IainB]

36 minutes ago, 1 valve said:

Unfortunately a none goer from the start as no TV company would see any financial benefit in doing as you suggest. 
The reason? Besides running stadiums is not their core activity, to buy Brandon, remove the existing derelict building & then build something capable of holding a GP akin to BV would cost in the region of ten million pounds. This type of investment would require a return (profit) of at least one million pounds per year before inflation - which of course is just not feasible.    

 

BSI already tried something similar with the running of Reading "Bulldogs" (i.e. getting involved in British Speedway) and they couldn't even make that pay and that was without buying Smallmead. A global company like WBD ain't going to go near British Speedway. A pity as perhaps an investment in grass roots Speedway in all countries (except Poland of course) is what is needed to grow the GP series as a token running of a SGP3 & SGP4 once a year isn't going to cut it. If they're not prepared to really invest in the sport I'm not quite sure why they got involved. 

Edited 11 hours ago by IainB

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11 hours ago, IainB said:

 If they're not prepared to really invest in the sport I'm not quite sure why they got involved. 

Their involvement is to acquire content for their TV channels and generate income from advertising & sub-licensing.  
Unfortunately unlike other sports shown on TV such as football/Rugby/Cricket/Darts/Snooker/MotoGP/etc. there is insufficient money involved to actually feed down to grass roots or actually promote & grow the sport to a wider audience. 

Edited 20 minutes ago by 1 valve