steve roberts Posted December 21 Report Share Posted December 21 Interesting development? The two day final in Amsterdam has constantly been criticised over the years although I enjoyed the event as it gave you two days in Amsterdam enjoying the sites. Obviously people now accept the idea of a two day event albeit within a GP series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted December 21 Report Share Posted December 21 When I first heard Belle Vue was going to also host a GP round, I thought, that's great for GB speedway, 2 venues in one year! Now, what do I think? I think it could be a disaster, from an attendance point of view. Also, how do fans choose between day 1 and day 2? Or are the organisers expecting fans to attend day 1 and 2? I doubt a huge number could. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted December 21 Report Share Posted December 21 8 minutes ago, Ray Stadia said: When I first heard Belle Vue was going to also host a GP round, I thought, that's great for GB speedway, 2 venues in one year! Now, what do I think? I think it could be a disaster, from an attendance point of view. Also, how do fans choose between day 1 and day 2? Or are the organisers expecting fans to attend day 1 and 2? I doubt a huge number could. to be fair doesn't have to be a huge number, BV can only hold so many. I think attending both days is going to be popular, Manchester is easy commute for much of the north and midlands. We'll see 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted December 21 Report Share Posted December 21 3 hours ago, Ray Stadia said: When I first heard Belle Vue was going to also host a GP round, I thought, that's great for GB speedway, 2 venues in one year! Now, what do I think? I think it could be a disaster, from an attendance point of view. Also, how do fans choose between day 1 and day 2? Or are the organisers expecting fans to attend day 1 and 2? I doubt a huge number could. Due to the capacity limit I would confidently expect both days to be sold out. Need to hit those hotels before they catch on. As Cardiff did after the first few years. One of the major reasons so many stopped going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted December 21 Report Share Posted December 21 18 hours ago, The White Knight said: As an aside - I still much preferred the one off 'World Final'. Speedway as it ought to be.🙂 Yes and especially at Wembley 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted December 21 Report Share Posted December 21 43 minutes ago, TINYS said: Yes and especially at Wembley These days people would complain about a Wembley final. Wembley has no roof and it always rains in London. Also there's nothing to do around Wembley and it's too far from London, so you can't walk it from Buckingham Palace or Downing Street. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted December 21 Report Share Posted December 21 3 hours ago, Hodgy said: Due to the capacity limit I would confidently expect both days to be sold out. Need to hit those hotels before they catch on. As Cardiff did after the first few years. One of the major reasons so many stopped going. Parklife is on in Manchester that weekend so hotels are already pricey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted December 21 Report Share Posted December 21 On 12/20/2024 at 6:17 PM, cowboy cookie returns? said: It’s a sad day for UK speedway & a measure of how the sport is failing over here. The attendance has been poor since Covid & to be honest embarrassing when on live tv so probably the right decision. thought the poor crowds at the SON looked worse. Always enjoyed Cardiff weekend especially when the Pairs were held at Somerset on the Friday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted December 21 Report Share Posted December 21 20 minutes ago, SteelShoe said: thought the poor crowds at the SON looked worse. Always enjoyed Cardiff weekend especially when the Pairs were held at Somerset on the Friday. You have to wonder with the CL pairs not being in the fixture list prior to the cancelled Cardiff GP date, how long ago this need was known about 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted December 21 Report Share Posted December 21 1 hour ago, SteelShoe said: thought the poor crowds at the SON looked worse. Always enjoyed Cardiff weekend especially when the Pairs were held at Somerset on the Friday. It was a great annual brothers weekend. Somerset pairs followed by Cardiff GP (also Welsh open at Newport on Sunday). It was great walking through Cardiff and all was Speedway. Great times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted December 21 Report Share Posted December 21 £80 ticket for both days, 5000 crowd.. £400k... Worth a punt I would say... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 22 Report Share Posted December 22 15 hours ago, SteelShoe said: thought the poor crowds at the SON looked worse. Always enjoyed Cardiff weekend especially when the Pairs were held at Somerset on the Friday. We all know the main reason for poor crowds at SON ,apart from needless format.Hope they have learned something from pricing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCastles Posted December 22 Report Share Posted December 22 I think Belle Vue (Manchester) will do a fine job weather permitting. I think 2 GP's in 2 days is probably a reflection sadly of how to make the event more viable, as the reality is the Sport only appeals to Speedway Fans. It also provides a backup plan should it rain. Undoubtedly the track is conducive to Racing and therefore you know it will be an entertaining GP if it is dry. Personally think it will be interesting to see what happens in the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregoryM Posted December 22 Report Share Posted December 22 20 hours ago, mikebv said: £80 ticket for both days, 5000 crowd.. £400k... Worth a punt I would say... I see Wroclaw Main Stand seats for their GP on 30 August are 499 Zloty (around £110), but their back straight prices are considerably cheaper at around £30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The SAINT Posted December 23 Report Share Posted December 23 On 12/21/2024 at 4:44 PM, RoundTheBoards said: These days people would complain about a Wembley final. Wembley has no roof and it always rains in London. Also there's nothing to do around Wembley and it's too far from London, so you can't walk it from Buckingham Palace or Downing Street. Plenty to do around wembley these days,loads of bars,cafes,shops etc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted December 23 Report Share Posted December 23 On 12/21/2024 at 6:52 AM, steve roberts said: Interesting development? The two day final in Amsterdam has constantly been criticised over the years although I enjoyed the event as it gave you two days in Amsterdam enjoying the sites. Obviously people now accept the idea of a two day event albeit within a GP series? Bit of stretch to compare Amsterdam with Manchester. Admitted both cities have trams ... but there the similarity ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted December 23 Report Share Posted December 23 An SGP in Amsterdam would be awesome ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted December 24 Report Share Posted December 24 15 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said: Bit of stretch to compare Amsterdam with Manchester. Admitted both cities have trams ... but there the similarity ends. Wasn't necessarily comparing cities but the fact that the the two day world final was derided by many at the time and since and yet that's what's been put forward at Manchester albeit within a GP series? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted December 24 Report Share Posted December 24 1 hour ago, steve roberts said: Wasn't necessarily comparing cities but the fact that the the two day world final was derided by many at the time and since and yet that's what's been put forward at Manchester albeit within a GP series? I went to Amsterdam and it wasn't good. The problem wasn't the fact that it was 2 days or the quality of the racing, it was that - apart from the British section on bend 2 - the stadium was practically empty. Cardiff, sadly, was starting to go the same way so was bound to get dropped soon. This is yet another sign of the decline of the sport in this country. If the GP is going to be held at a league track, though, Belle Vue is the best choice. The GP will continue to decline, at least until all the World's best riders are allowed to ride in it. It's pretty meaningless at the moment. I can also say that, as one of many people who no longer have a home track to support, interest in the sport itself gradually fades away as the years pass. Time is a great healer. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted December 24 Report Share Posted December 24 1 hour ago, Grachan said: I went to Amsterdam and it wasn't good. The problem wasn't the fact that it was 2 days or the quality of the racing, it was that - apart from the British section on bend 2 - the stadium was practically empty. Cardiff, sadly, was starting to go the same way so was bound to get dropped soon. This is yet another sign of the decline of the sport in this country. If the GP is going to be held at a league track, though, Belle Vue is the best choice. The GP will continue to decline, at least until all the World's best riders are allowed to ride in it. It's pretty meaningless at the moment. I can also say that, as one of many people who no longer have a home track to support, interest in the sport itself gradually fades away as the years pass. Time is a great healer. As Coventry staged a GP in the past and successfully, as I recall, perhaps the GP organisers could have taken the opportunity to try and buy the stadium, to have as a British GP 'flagship', but with Belle Vue as a second British GP venue? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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