Cardiff GP 2025 Cancelled

[TINYS]

1 hour ago, 1 valve said:

Maybe the subsidy by from the Welsh tourist board has finished or been dramatically reduced to make the event unviable. 
Local businesses are going to suffer unless some other event gets booked in. 
Also it shows the way not to address the problem of declining attendance is to shove the prices up way beyond inflation. 

BV need to take heed - no guarantee of the meetings being a sell out as both will be on TV & should price tickets to pass on the benefit of their fixed costs now being spread across two meetings instead of just the one intended. 
 

I,m told the contract with the Principality was up.

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

1 hour ago, AceBelle said:

if people can't manage their finances more fool them 

As I said that’s not the point he is making 

[ShanoXtra]

3 hours ago, AceBelle said:

All this garbage about it alway's rains at B/vue pathetic childish comments for one we all no the track has one of the best drainage system in europe !! and it's not got a roof well 98%of GP'S are run on tracks with no roofs !! only cardiff and the polish warsaw had roofs !! every chance all  the rest could get rained off ? also and fans should have made sure a refund was available to them or get insurance to cover them for hotels because you never know if you have to cancel for personal reasons there own fault for not checking before booking !! also Manchester city centre is on a 20 mins walk from staduim taxi 10 mins 2 massive football clubs also 2 visit for staduim tours maybe ? use you're imagination plenty to do !!

Nice rant but Gorzow and Torun both have roofs. And yes, i'm aware Torun isn't in the GP this year!

[Sir Sidney]

5 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said:

Nice rant but Gorzow and Torun both have roofs. And yes, i'm aware Torun isn't in the GP this year!

Gorzow didn't have a roof when I was there last year!

[AceBelle]

13 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said:

Nice rant but Gorzow and Torun both have roofs. And yes, i'm aware Torun isn't in the GP this year!

Gorzow hasn't Torun has yes i stand corrected how could i forget them when NSS is modelled of that track 🤣 and yes it's not on the calender next season !! Gorzow tho has NO roof !!

Edited 3 hours ago by AceBelle

[AceBelle]

5 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said:

Gorzow didn't have a roof when I was there last year!

correct maybe he will appoligise  like i did for getting Torun wrong ??

[ElmParkRG2]

37 minutes ago, TINYS said:

I,m told the contract with the Principality was up.

So why did they announce the date, then?

[ElmParkRG2]

15 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said:

Nice rant but Gorzow and Torun both have roofs. And yes, i'm aware Torun isn't in the GP this year!

Torun will have a GP next year, it will replace Cardif!

[therefused]

3 hours ago, AceBelle said:

parklife weekend /OASIS that's why !!

nothing to do with Oasis

[AceBelle]

1 minute ago, ElmParkRG2 said:

Torun will have a GP next year, it will replace Cardif!

correct 

[AceBelle]

41 minutes ago, TINYS said:

I,m told the contract with the Principality was up.

2025 was the last year on the contract !!

[AceBelle]

43 minutes ago, TINYS said:

I,m told the contract with the Principality was up.

2025 was the last year on the contract !!

 

5 minutes ago, ElmParkRG2 said:

So why did they announce the date, then?

because 2025 last year on contract 

Edited 3 hours ago by AceBelle

[eric i]

Conspiracy theory, They kept Cardiff on the calendar because its good to attract sponsors, once the sponsors signed on the dotted line they switch Cardiff for Belle Vue.

I understand the SON lost a lot of money, ok a GP will be more popular but I think in order for Discovery to make some money they needed to do 2 crowd pullers, it was always the plan in my opinion. I will put money on it being 2gps at belle vue in 2026 as well.

[AFCB Wildcat]

1 hour ago, AceBelle said:

put you're tissues away deal with it !!

Deal with what?

Sorry if you missed the point. I'll try and explain once more, then I'll give up...  

Cardiff was criticised for being 'rip off' because hotel prices were hiked on GP weekends. Whether it be Oasis, The Wombles, or Speedway is irrelevant. Manchester hotels have hiked their prices because of demand in the same way, so is no different to Cardiff or anywhere else & I accept that's how it works.

If you can't understand that, I'll send you my tissues, as you probably need them for something else 😉

[mikebv]

3 minutes ago, ElmParkRG2 said:

So why did they announce the date, then?

Maybe they felt the renegotiation of the contract was  a formality?

And then something changed? 

A price increase and then a "tactical walkaway" possibly..?

[AceBelle]

1 minute ago, AFCB Wildcat said:

Deal with what?

Sorry if you missed the point. I'll try and explain once more, then I'll give up...  

Cardiff was criticised for being 'rip off' because hotel prices were hiked on GP weekends. Whether it be Oasis, The Wombles, or Speedway is irrelevant. Manchester hotels have hiked their prices because of demand in the same way, so is no different to Cardiff or anywhere else & I accept that's how it works.

If you can't understand that, I'll send you my tissues, as you probably need them for something else 😉

parklife weekend also in manchester 

[AceBelle]

2 minutes ago, AFCB Wildcat said:

Deal with what?

Sorry if you missed the point. I'll try and explain once more, then I'll give up...  

Cardiff was criticised for being 'rip off' because hotel prices were hiked on GP weekends. Whether it be Oasis, The Wombles, or Speedway is irrelevant. Manchester hotels have hiked their prices because of demand in the same way, so is no different to Cardiff or anywhere else & I accept that's how it works.

If you can't understand that, I'll send you my tissues, as you probably need them for something else 😉

business is business hotels dear everywhere !! nothing cheap these days come to manchester or don't not a big problem 

[Daniel Smith]

What we're seeing here is the death of World class Speedway in Britain.

I cannot see a GP in this country after 2025 

[Jon Boy]

31 minutes ago, eric i said:

Conspiracy theory, They kept Cardiff on the calendar because its good to attract sponsors, once the sponsors signed on the dotted line they switch Cardiff for Belle Vue.

I understand the SON lost a lot of money, ok a GP will be more popular but I think in order for Discovery to make some money they needed to do 2 crowd pullers, it was always the plan in my opinion. I will put money on it being 2gps at belle vue in 2026 as well.

The break even figure for costs is around £71 per ticket based on ticket sells of 7000. Double it to two events of 7000 then that drops to about £50 per head. 
 

This shows how much sponsors and TV money are subsidising the sport. Grants for Cardiff were about £200k a year from the Welsh Government. 
 

I seem to remember Manchester Council loaned up front £133k to allow SWC back when the stadium first opened. 
 

Hosting SGP isn’t cheap. Just because it’s moved from Cardiff many of the costs haven’t changed. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Jon Boy

[CrystalCastles]

27 minutes ago, mikebv said:

Maybe they felt the renegotiation of the contract was  a formality?

And then something changed? 

A price increase and then a "tactical walkaway" possibly..?

Think they'll have had relatively cheap use of the Stadium on long term contracts. I personally think the Stadium want more money and the reality is that Gigs draw in full capacity stadiums and more economic benefit to Cardiff and Wales now.

With declining Rugby crowds that will be a major factor.