Cardiff GP 2025 Cancelled

[AceBelle]

8 minutes ago, MattB said:

Sorry, that's ludicrous.  Harris' win in 2007 and Rickardsson's wall of death in 2005 are among the most iconic moments in GP history

Wall of death he just rolled round 😳 

[therefused]

14 minutes ago, AceBelle said:

Wall of death he just rolled round 😳 

Oh dear 

[mikebv]

7 hours ago, longmeadow said:

Have you always been an idiot? History lesson for. You do know why coventry was bombed during the second world war. Thats why we have two cathedrals. Twinned with gaza?. Hope your a man city fan and have a great christmas

Two cathedral's but no speedway track....

And no one noticed the city had been bombed until 1965....

[PersonalResponsibility]

It's probably reached a natural end, but the way it's been dealt with is abysmal. I'm sure the usual suspect will be along soon to chastise those who've booked non-refundable accommodation, but that was a big attraction of Cardiff: it would never be rained off.

Whatever your thoughts are of the whole event, there are now unhappy speedway fans who have lost money on hotels, and maybe some who won't bother as much with speedway.

WBD have been an unmitigated disaster.

[IainB]

11 minutes ago, PersonalResponsibility said:

Cardiff: it would never be rained off.

WBD have been an unmitigated disaster.

Not rained off, but it was very nearly cancelled/abandoned a few years back due to track conditions. 

Your final comment succinctly hits the nail on the head though. 

Edited Saturday at 07:52 PM by IainB

[flagrag]

6 hours ago, racers and royals said:

BSI when in charge were always the promoters of the Cardiff GP- you must have a short memory- they used to promote other GP’s as well - Parken Copenhagen and Gelsenkirchen  Germany as well.

My apologies I forget about the German and Danish ones what I meant to say was that WBD are not event promotors . They do however still have some very good ideas and plans on how to move the series forward with further progress made on possibly having a London GP if all the logistics and arena availability was to fall into place for another year 

[IainB]

1 minute ago, flagrag said:

They do however still have some very good ideas and plans on how to move the series forward with further progress made on possibly having a London GP if all the logistics and arena availability was to fall into place for another year 

32nd of Julember 20NeverNever?

[PersonalResponsibility]

3 minutes ago, IainB said:

32nd of Julember 20NeverNever?

Or it'll be London in Nigeria, where a rich Prince has promised his inheritance to WBD in a no-loss contract to broaden speedway's horizons.

[IainB]

12 minutes ago, PersonalResponsibility said:

Or it'll be London in Nigeria, where a rich Prince has promised his inheritance to WBD in a no-loss contract to broaden speedway's horizons.

I think you can file a London GP with the Australian one

https://www.fullnoise.com.au/fullnoise-news/australian-2022-fim-speedway-grand-prix-cancelled-but-promoters-persist-with-2023-return/#:~:text=Australian 2022 FIM Speedway Grand,Fullnoise.com.au Motorcycle News

These WBD guys are 🐂💩 merchants

[SaddlebowRoad]

1 hour ago, flagrag said:

My apologies I forget about the German and Danish ones what I meant to say was that WBD are not event promotors . They do however still have some very good ideas and plans on how to move the series forward with further progress made on possibly having a London GP if all the logistics and arena availability was to fall into place for another year 

the london stadium presumably 

[old bob at herne bay]

Dwindling number of UK tracks= fewer UK speedway supporters. 

So many supporters “lost “ by track closures in vast swathes of England. Some retain an interest to follow the sport on social media and TV , but travelling hundreds of miles year after year  to shell out hundreds of pounds for tix and hotels to watch riders who mean diddly squat to them ? Not likely. 
 

Still if EVERY Belle Vue supporter turned up to support Danny Beaulieu …guess that might be 1000 … 

 

So deluded ace Belle………seems WBD confirm that they have record numbers viewing on platforms  …….rather confirms my belief that fans are not willing / able to travel to these events in the UK . 50,000 attendance in Poland was stated. No mention offs of attendance in Caerdydd . 5.000 maybe? 
 

[AceBelle]

2 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said:

Dwindling number of UK tracks= fewer UK speedway supporters. 

So many supporters “lost “ by track closures in vast swathes of England. Some retain an interest to follow the sport on social media and TV , but travelling hundreds of miles year after year  to shell out hundreds of pounds for tix and hotels to watch riders who mean diddly squat to them ? Not likely. 
 

Still if EVERY Belle Vue supporter turned up to support Danny Beaulieu …guess that might be 1000 … 

 

So deluded ace Belle………seems WBD confirm that they have record numbers viewing on platforms  …….rather confirms my belief that fans are not willing / able to travel to these events in the UK . 50,000 attendance in Poland was stated. No mention offs of attendance in Caerdydd . 5.000 maybe? 
 

You're the deluded one for sure 

[CrystalCastles]

15 hours ago, flagrag said:

My apologies I forget about the German and Danish ones what I meant to say was that WBD are not event promotors . They do however still have some very good ideas and plans on how to move the series forward with further progress made on possibly having a London GP if all the logistics and arena availability was to fall into place for another year 

It will be interesting to see how WSX does in London in October 2025, following Cardiff in 22, Villa Park in 23.

[JamesHarris]

Probably not a popular opinion but I've thought for a while now that the speeds of the modern speedway bike are no longer suited to Cardiff and any of the other indoor tracks. The circuits are just too small and tight. I'm sure Hancock said in an interview this year that you have to have a separate bike set up just for these tracks. The indoor stadium tracks are all about prestige and putting speedway in the limelight I suppose but just stick to proper circuits. I've been to Cardiff a couple of times and it was more about the atmosphere than the racing. Had some good times but I think the time is right to move the GP elsewhere though I do think a double header at Belle Vue is stupid. 

[foreverblue]

4 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said:

Dwindling number of UK tracks= fewer UK speedway supporters. 

So many supporters “lost “ by track closures in vast swathes of England. Some retain an interest to follow the sport on social media and TV , but travelling hundreds of miles year after year  to shell out hundreds of pounds for tix and hotels to watch riders who mean diddly squat to them ? Not likely. 
 

Still if EVERY Belle Vue supporter turned up to support Danny Beaulieu …guess that might be 1000 … 

 

So deluded ace Belle………seems WBD confirm that they have record numbers viewing on platforms  …….rather confirms my belief that fans are not willing / able to travel to these events in the UK . 50,000 attendance in Poland was stated. No mention offs of attendance in Caerdydd . 5.000 maybe? 
 

Probably do not want to tell us Cardiff attendances as it would spoil their commercial reasons line. There was way more than 5000, I would have said around 20000.

[Humphrey Appleby]

On 12/21/2024 at 4:31 AM, AFCB Wildcat said:

I've been to, & stayed in Manchester many times and I will be there again on Sunday for football, so I'm familiar with the geography. Manchester Piccadilly is pretty much as south of the city cente within the ring road as you get. Google maps says its a 2.4 mile walk and 57 minutes from there to the Speedway stadium. I walk pretty quickly (for my age) but I reckon that's a 45 minute walk for me, so where in the city centre is it a 20 minute walk from?

I stayed near Belle Vue when I watched the Smashing Pumpkins earlier this year. Had to walk to Piccadilly the next day because the trains didn't start running early enough to connect with my Intercity train. 

I walk pretty quick and it was 35 minutes or so from memory. The city centre must be another 5-10 minutes from there, depending on where you define the city centre.

[SPEEDY69]

Oh well, my GP trip is off, it's getting to be a TV only sport these days....

[foreverblue]

45 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said:

Oh well, my GP trip is off, it's getting to be a TV only sport these days....

Yes me too, personally think it is short sighted of the organisers as last was good, better racing than previous year and I believe crowd levels would have been better. Crowd levels were down last year because previous years racing was not good.

[old bob at herne bay]

23 hours ago, foreverblue said:

Probably do not want to tell us Cardiff attendances as it would spoil their commercial reasons line. There was way more than 5000, I would have said around 20000.

So  about 30% capacity if your guess is correct:-

Principality stadium capacity :-

73,931 Spectators all seated.

Overall (Seated)	73,931 Spectators
Upper Tier	35,151 Spectators Level 6
Middle Tier	15,626 Spectators Levels 4 & 5
Lower Tier	23,154 Spectators

[longmeadow]

Ive been 18 times. Best night of the year. I took my fiancee this year and she was amazed at the atmosphere and the size of the stadium. She had a great night was was really looking forward to 2025. Oh and by the way shes polish