Fromafar Posted Saturday at 11:09 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:09 AM At least you will see decent speedway and many will still be sober. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted Saturday at 11:12 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:12 AM 14 hours ago, longmeadow said: Absolutely rubbish decision. Best weekend of the year. No way am i going anywhere near manchester. Two nights in the most depressing city in the world I think Liverpool will beat it to that title. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longmeadow Posted Saturday at 11:42 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:42 AM 11 hours ago, mikebv said: Do you live in Coventry? Isn't it twinned with Gaza? .. Have you always been an idiot? History lesson for. You do know why coventry was bombed during the second world war. Thats why we have two cathedrals. Twinned with gaza?. Hope your a man city fan and have a great christmas 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R87 Posted Saturday at 11:45 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:45 AM 15 hours ago, fatface said: Agree with a lot of that. Shouldn't have been on the calendar. BUT...what I strongly suspect is that organisers have to get the calendar out early and Cardiff was dependent upon funding from Welsh Govt. I expect that has been pulled, after all, if it's not attracting numbers and doing good business, then why would you invest tax payer money in it? Once that went, it's not viable. As for Poland, well, that's the reality of where the sport is. It's the only lucrative market for speedway on the planet. He who pays the piper calls the tune. Let's not forget there was a time when the World Final was held in the UK every year and riders qualified for that direct from the British Final. Same situation, different country. I think the best way to process this is to be grateful for the 20 odd years we had at Cardiff. Few of us imagined speedway ever getting back into a major UK stadium after Wembley. It did and it was a joyful experience - particularly 2007. Grateful for what? It was dreadful year after year after year. Not one decent moment has ever come out of it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longmeadow Posted Saturday at 11:49 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:49 AM Chris Harris winning was but as a bees fan whats there not to like. I hope cardiff is back soon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted Saturday at 12:33 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 12:33 PM Crowd levels at Cardiff are now so embarrassingly low, it can't be any surprise that it's been pulled. At least the NSS will provide much better entertainment... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longmeadow Posted Saturday at 12:51 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 12:51 PM Not if its. raining it wont. Has anybody on this thread actually been to cardiff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted Saturday at 12:55 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 12:55 PM 4 hours ago, IainB said: WBD managed to half the crowd from the moment they took over and then did pretty much nothing in the way of promotion to tempt those people back. Like @flagrag said they need to rent the stadium for a period of time to put the track in and that won't come cheap and then all of a sudden the numbers stop adding up. This time the decision truly has been made for "commercial reasons" but you can't help but think that if IMG were still the rights holders we'd all be off to Cardiff again next summer. It has to be remembered that WBD and BSI previously are not event promotors they are the series rights holders . For example Warsaw is staged by PZM and then staging tracks are the promotors for other rounds with Belle Vue being a joint venture between BV Speedway and British Speedway promotors association. Do I think that Cardiff would run in 2025 of still under BSI no I don’t think it would as crowds would still be the same levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Saturday at 01:02 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 01:02 PM 3 minutes ago, flagrag said: Do I think that Cardiff would run in 2025 of still under BSI no I don’t think it would as crowds would still be the same levels We'll never know, of course, but BSI did consistently build the crowd over the duration of their time at Cardiff until the final year, then all of a sudden it halved, yes you could mention Covid, but that doesn't seem to have effected the attendances at any other events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted Saturday at 01:02 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 01:02 PM 1 hour ago, R87 said: Grateful for what? It was dreadful year after year after year. Not one decent moment has ever come out of it The Harris moment will live forever as one of my best watching live Speedway. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Saturday at 01:08 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 01:08 PM https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/huge-cardiff-event-not-returning-30632913 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxiboy Posted Saturday at 02:00 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:00 PM 51 minutes ago, IainB said: https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/huge-cardiff-event-not-returning-30632913 It says the event has been coming to the stadium for the last 3 years. Shows how much the local press are in touch with speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted Saturday at 02:23 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:23 PM 2 hours ago, longmeadow said: Have you always been an idiot? History lesson for. You do know why coventry was bombed during the second world war. Thats why we have two cathedrals. Twinned with gaza?. Hope your a man city fan and have a great christmas how are coventry going on today with fat frank whey up pompey 4-1 🤣😂💩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted Saturday at 02:24 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:24 PM 2 hours ago, longmeadow said: Chris Harris winning was but as a bees fan whats there not to like. I hope cardiff is back soon it won't it's finished there thank god !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted Saturday at 02:40 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:40 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, flagrag said: It has to be remembered that WBD and BSI previously are not event promotors they are the series rights holders . For example Warsaw is staged by PZM and then staging tracks are the promotors for other rounds with Belle Vue being a joint venture between BV Speedway and British Speedway promotors association. Do I think that Cardiff would run in 2025 of still under BSI no I don’t think it would as crowds would still be the same levels BSI when in charge were always the promoters of the Cardiff GP- you must have a short memory- they used to promote other GP’s as well - Parken Copenhagen and Gelsenkirchen Germany as well. Edited Saturday at 02:41 PM by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted Saturday at 03:31 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 03:31 PM 20 hours ago, MattB said: The decision itself is not a huge surprise. I went to every Cardiff GP from 2001 to this year's, and 2024 did have the feel of a final visit. However, the way it's been handled stinks. If they had doubts about viability, then drop Cardiff when they set the calendar. To put it in, allow fans to arrange (expensive) accommodation etc, then move the goalposts three months later is a huge own goal. I too had the feeling that I was at the last GP to be held in the Principality stadium. It's very sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted Saturday at 03:31 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 03:31 PM 20 hours ago, MattB said: The decision itself is not a huge surprise. I went to every Cardiff GP from 2001 to this year's, and 2024 did have the feel of a final visit. However, the way it's been handled stinks. If they had doubts about viability, then drop Cardiff when they set the calendar. To put it in, allow fans to arrange (expensive) accommodation etc, then move the goalposts three months later is a huge own goal. I too had the feeling that I was at the last GP to be held in the Principality stadium. It's very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted Saturday at 03:47 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 03:47 PM 2 hours ago, IainB said: https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/huge-cardiff-event-not-returning-30632913 3 years Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted Saturday at 04:12 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 04:12 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, Hodgy said: The Harris moment will live forever as one of my best watching live Speedway. Absolutely. What a night that was. Too many glass half empty folks moaning. Drink up and get it refilled you miserable old gits or the ghosts of Christmas past, present and future will be with you imminently 😄 Personally, I’ve had great times in Manchester, Cardiff, Liverpool and yes, Coventry too. Edited Saturday at 04:25 PM by fatface 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattB Posted Saturday at 04:31 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 04:31 PM 4 hours ago, R87 said: Grateful for what? It was dreadful year after year after year. Not one decent moment has ever come out of it Sorry, that's ludicrous. Harris' win in 2007 and Rickardsson's wall of death in 2005 are among the most iconic moments in GP history 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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