TINYS Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 1 hour ago, 1 valve said: Maybe the subsidy by from the Welsh tourist board has finished or been dramatically reduced to make the event unviable. Local businesses are going to suffer unless some other event gets booked in. Also it shows the way not to address the problem of declining attendance is to shove the prices up way beyond inflation. BV need to take heed - no guarantee of the meetings being a sell out as both will be on TV & should price tickets to pass on the benefit of their fixed costs now being spread across two meetings instead of just the one intended. I,m told the contract with the Principality was up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 1 hour ago, AceBelle said: if people can't manage their finances more fool them As I said that’s not the point he is making Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 3 hours ago, AceBelle said: All this garbage about it alway's rains at B/vue pathetic childish comments for one we all no the track has one of the best drainage system in europe !! and it's not got a roof well 98%of GP'S are run on tracks with no roofs !! only cardiff and the polish warsaw had roofs !! every chance all the rest could get rained off ? also and fans should have made sure a refund was available to them or get insurance to cover them for hotels because you never know if you have to cancel for personal reasons there own fault for not checking before booking !! also Manchester city centre is on a 20 mins walk from staduim taxi 10 mins 2 massive football clubs also 2 visit for staduim tours maybe ? use you're imagination plenty to do !! Nice rant but Gorzow and Torun both have roofs. And yes, i'm aware Torun isn't in the GP this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 5 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said: Nice rant but Gorzow and Torun both have roofs. And yes, i'm aware Torun isn't in the GP this year! Gorzow didn't have a roof when I was there last year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said: Nice rant but Gorzow and Torun both have roofs. And yes, i'm aware Torun isn't in the GP this year! Gorzow hasn't Torun has yes i stand corrected how could i forget them when NSS is modelled of that track 🤣 and yes it's not on the calender next season !! Gorzow tho has NO roof !! Edited December 20 by AceBelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 5 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said: Gorzow didn't have a roof when I was there last year! correct maybe he will appoligise like i did for getting Torun wrong ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmParkRG2 Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 37 minutes ago, TINYS said: I,m told the contract with the Principality was up. So why did they announce the date, then? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmParkRG2 Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 15 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said: Nice rant but Gorzow and Torun both have roofs. And yes, i'm aware Torun isn't in the GP this year! Torun will have a GP next year, it will replace Cardif! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 3 hours ago, AceBelle said: parklife weekend /OASIS that's why !! nothing to do with Oasis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 1 minute ago, ElmParkRG2 said: Torun will have a GP next year, it will replace Cardif! correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 41 minutes ago, TINYS said: I,m told the contract with the Principality was up. 2025 was the last year on the contract !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 (edited) 43 minutes ago, TINYS said: I,m told the contract with the Principality was up. 2025 was the last year on the contract !! 5 minutes ago, ElmParkRG2 said: So why did they announce the date, then? because 2025 last year on contract Edited December 20 by AceBelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 Conspiracy theory, They kept Cardiff on the calendar because its good to attract sponsors, once the sponsors signed on the dotted line they switch Cardiff for Belle Vue. I understand the SON lost a lot of money, ok a GP will be more popular but I think in order for Discovery to make some money they needed to do 2 crowd pullers, it was always the plan in my opinion. I will put money on it being 2gps at belle vue in 2026 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCB Wildcat Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 1 hour ago, AceBelle said: put you're tissues away deal with it !! Deal with what? Sorry if you missed the point. I'll try and explain once more, then I'll give up... Cardiff was criticised for being 'rip off' because hotel prices were hiked on GP weekends. Whether it be Oasis, The Wombles, or Speedway is irrelevant. Manchester hotels have hiked their prices because of demand in the same way, so is no different to Cardiff or anywhere else & I accept that's how it works. If you can't understand that, I'll send you my tissues, as you probably need them for something else 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 3 minutes ago, ElmParkRG2 said: So why did they announce the date, then? Maybe they felt the renegotiation of the contract was a formality? And then something changed? A price increase and then a "tactical walkaway" possibly..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 1 minute ago, AFCB Wildcat said: Deal with what? Sorry if you missed the point. I'll try and explain once more, then I'll give up... Cardiff was criticised for being 'rip off' because hotel prices were hiked on GP weekends. Whether it be Oasis, The Wombles, or Speedway is irrelevant. Manchester hotels have hiked their prices because of demand in the same way, so is no different to Cardiff or anywhere else & I accept that's how it works. If you can't understand that, I'll send you my tissues, as you probably need them for something else 😉 parklife weekend also in manchester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 2 minutes ago, AFCB Wildcat said: Deal with what? Sorry if you missed the point. I'll try and explain once more, then I'll give up... Cardiff was criticised for being 'rip off' because hotel prices were hiked on GP weekends. Whether it be Oasis, The Wombles, or Speedway is irrelevant. Manchester hotels have hiked their prices because of demand in the same way, so is no different to Cardiff or anywhere else & I accept that's how it works. If you can't understand that, I'll send you my tissues, as you probably need them for something else 😉 business is business hotels dear everywhere !! nothing cheap these days come to manchester or don't not a big problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 What we're seeing here is the death of World class Speedway in Britain. I cannot see a GP in this country after 2025 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Boy Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 (edited) 31 minutes ago, eric i said: Conspiracy theory, They kept Cardiff on the calendar because its good to attract sponsors, once the sponsors signed on the dotted line they switch Cardiff for Belle Vue. I understand the SON lost a lot of money, ok a GP will be more popular but I think in order for Discovery to make some money they needed to do 2 crowd pullers, it was always the plan in my opinion. I will put money on it being 2gps at belle vue in 2026 as well. The break even figure for costs is around £71 per ticket based on ticket sells of 7000. Double it to two events of 7000 then that drops to about £50 per head. This shows how much sponsors and TV money are subsidising the sport. Grants for Cardiff were about £200k a year from the Welsh Government. I seem to remember Manchester Council loaned up front £133k to allow SWC back when the stadium first opened. Hosting SGP isn’t cheap. Just because it’s moved from Cardiff many of the costs haven’t changed. Edited December 20 by Jon Boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCastles Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 27 minutes ago, mikebv said: Maybe they felt the renegotiation of the contract was a formality? And then something changed? A price increase and then a "tactical walkaway" possibly..? Think they'll have had relatively cheap use of the Stadium on long term contracts. I personally think the Stadium want more money and the reality is that Gigs draw in full capacity stadiums and more economic benefit to Cardiff and Wales now. With declining Rugby crowds that will be a major factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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