Falcon1983 Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago Dont mind the idea in principal of Poole getting a wild card as current championship champions etc. However the way the sport works with shared riders makes it difficult to bring any credibility to it So it says they can build to prem standards while maintaining some of its championship riders But if they have some of their championship riders in a prem side already who would then get priority surely that makes them cup tied from riding for Poole? So would Poole then need to build a complete different 1-7 for the prem KO Cup and select that from a pool of riders who dont have a prem club? Some clubs struggle to put a 1-7 together anyway So for me the principal idea is OK but doesnt work Prem KO Cup would have been better to have done 2 groups of 3 Group A Ipswich, Kings Lynn & Brum Group B Sheffield, Belle Vue, Leicester One home and one away meeting I.e. Ipswich vs Kings Lynn Brum vs Ipswich Kings Lynn vs Brum No two legs etc Top 2 in the Groups qualify for seni finals where you revert to normal 2 leg meetings Winner Group A vs Runner Up Group B etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: Dont mind the idea in principal of Poole getting a wild card as current championship champions etc. However the way the sport works with shared riders makes it difficult to bring any credibility to it So it says they can build to prem standards while maintaining some of its championship riders But if they have some of their championship riders in a prem side already who would then get priority surely that makes them cup tied from riding for Poole? So would Poole then need to build a complete different 1-7 for the prem KO Cup and select that from a pool of riders who dont have a prem club? Some clubs struggle to put a 1-7 together anyway So for me the principal idea is OK but doesnt work Prem KO Cup would have been better to have done 2 groups of 3 Group A Ipswich, Kings Lynn & Brum Group B Sheffield, Belle Vue, Leicester One home and one away meeting I.e. Ipswich vs Kings Lynn Brum vs Ipswich Kings Lynn vs Brum No two legs etc Top 2 in the Groups qualify for seni finals where you revert to normal 2 leg meetings Winner Group A vs Runner Up Group B etc. Oxford ??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago Underwhelmed…again. Announcing ‘potential NDL extension’ ?….so something that hasn't actually been sorted and they promised a lot last year that didnt materialise. ‘Big weekend event’? In APRIL ??? Loads of questions… if these are to be run in early April some clubs wont have started their fixtures and we could be faced with riders representing clubs they have yet to ride for in any sort of meaningful fixture ? As they run so early then Im assuming the rider qualifications will be judged on the previous seasons average ? Riders Championship should be towards the end if the season so a club knows who is its number 1, not based on what happened the previous year, when so many riders will have moved clubs. No 4 team tournament is a disappointment. Two British GP’s and no big event the night before ? Cup/ BSN draws ?…they obviously weren't drawn at all. Disappointed? …yes, but then we knew it would be the same old same old… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: Underwhelmed…again. Announcing ‘potential NDL extension’ ?….so something that hasn't actually been sorted and they promised a lot last year that didnt materialise. ‘Big weekend event’? In APRIL ??? Loads of questions… if these are to be run in early April some clubs wont have started their fixtures and we could be faced with riders representing clubs they have yet to ride for in any sort of meaningful fixture ? As they run so early then Im assuming the rider qualifications will be judged on the previous seasons average ? Riders Championship should be towards the end if the season so a club knows who is its number 1, not based on what happened the previous year, when so many riders will have moved clubs. No 4 team tournament is a disappointment. Two British GP’s and no big event the night before ? Cup/ BSN draws ?…they obviously weren't drawn at all. Disappointed? …yes, but then we knew it would be the same old same old… If it ain't broken, why fix it?... Radical change will never happen, given it didn't take place during covid which was the perfect time to reset and relaunch.. All we have is all there is, hence, keep expectations low, and just go along to enjoy the racing, and hopefully all tracks get through the season again, like last year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 43 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: Dont mind the idea in principal of Poole getting a wild card as current championship champions etc. However the way the sport works with shared riders makes it difficult to bring any credibility to it So it says they can build to prem standards while maintaining some of its championship riders But if they have some of their championship riders in a prem side already who would then get priority surely that makes them cup tied from riding for Poole? So would Poole then need to build a complete different 1-7 for the prem KO Cup and select that from a pool of riders who dont have a prem club? Some clubs struggle to put a 1-7 together anyway So for me the principal idea is OK but doesnt work Prem KO Cup would have been better to have done 2 groups of 3 Group A Ipswich, Kings Lynn & Brum Group B Sheffield, Belle Vue, Leicester One home and one away meeting I.e. Ipswich vs Kings Lynn Brum vs Ipswich Kings Lynn vs Brum No two legs etc Top 2 in the Groups qualify for seni finals where you revert to normal 2 leg meetings Winner Group A vs Runner Up Group B etc. On the Pirates website today Danny Ford states that they have only given 'provisional' acceptance to the Prem KO Cup, depending on having a strong enough, Prem strength line-up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago So still 1H1A in the CL? Despite everyone I heard comment on it saying that it was ridiculous, some clubs to finish in August again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie456 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Falcon1983 said: Dont mind the idea in principal of Poole getting a wild card as current championship champions etc. However the way the sport works with shared riders makes it difficult to bring any credibility to it So it says they can build to prem standards while maintaining some of its championship riders But if they have some of their championship riders in a prem side already who would then get priority surely that makes them cup tied from riding for Poole? So would Poole then need to build a complete different 1-7 for the prem KO Cup and select that from a pool of riders who dont have a prem club? Some clubs struggle to put a 1-7 together anyway So for me the principal idea is OK but doesnt work Prem KO Cup would have been better to have done 2 groups of 3 Group A Ipswich, Kings Lynn & Brum Group B Sheffield, Belle Vue, Leicester One home and one away meeting I.e. Ipswich vs Kings Lynn Brum vs Ipswich Kings Lynn vs Brum No two legs etc Top 2 in the Groups qualify for seni finals where you revert to normal 2 leg meetings Winner Group A vs Runner Up Group B etc. What about Oxford? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago I would've like to have seen an effort made into limiting guests or at least teams not being able to strengthen themselves with a use of guest. But they'd never vote for that in case it hurts their own team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaddlebowRoad Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 27 minutes ago, IainB said: So still 1H1A in the CL? Despite everyone I heard comment on it saying that it was ridiculous, some clubs to finish in August again too many clubs race on fridays apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 2 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Didn't know he wanted 35? But it's still 40. Yes he wanted 3 gp riders and a 35 point limit!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, AceBelle said: Oxford ??? Lol yeah forgot about Oxford, long day at the office Then that would be a qualifying group of 7 clubs, all riding 3 home vs 3 away with the top 4 advancing to the semi finals Or you have One group of 4, one group of 3 with the top 2 going into the semi finals, still work it out that you ride one home one away So say in a group of 4 Oxford, ipswich, kings lynn and brum Ipswich v lynn Brum v Oxford Lynn v brum Oxford v ipswich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 20 minutes ago, SaddlebowRoad said: too many clubs race on fridays apparently ... meanwhile, Poole could be running into December! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 6 hours ago, IainB said: Woffy? It'll be interesting to see how it compares to his Wroclaw testimonial. I assume that as he's been granted a testimonial he will be back in the UK next year. More Doyle for me but as someone who did see Tai’s debut for Sheffield all those years ago I’ve no issue with him having one nor the other guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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