Is there a point to heat 15?

[Fromafar]

Think the last 2 Heats as nominated (as like Poland) would be a better option.Gives the Team Manager something too think about.

[Arch Stanton]

On 11/12/2024 at 9:42 AM, Chairboy said:

I like the current format. I don't have a problem with H15 being a re-run of H13. But I do hate it when there is a "super-heat" and the same riders can be chosen as H15. Wouldn't it give team managers something to think about if your H15 choices couldn't be used in a subsequent super-heat? Wouldn't it be great - for the riders, and the fans - if 2 of their weaker riders were given the chance to get the glory?

 

On 11/12/2024 at 10:04 AM, IainB said:

I've thought this since day 1 and this should really be the discussion of this topic. Heat 15 is what it is, it's nominated, heat 13 isn't always guaranteed to be the "best" heat of the night, especially if your number 1 or 5 is having a bad night or gets injured, so leave that alone. The super heat should not involve any riders that have appeared in heat 15 imo, makes it more of a team result.

But we have so many moaning about value for money. Surely, you want to see Sayfutdinov, Woffinden, Bewley etc as often as possible? If it’s a superheat, watching the best riders, sometimes the best riders in the world, battling each other three times in the last four heats is something EVERY fan should want to see? 
Why on earth wouldn’t you want that?

[IainB]

5 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:

 

But we have so many moaning about value for money. Surely, you want to see Sayfutdinov, Woffinden, Bewley etc as often as possible? If it’s a superheat, watching the best riders, sometimes the best riders in the world, battling each other three times in the last four heats is something EVERY fan should want to see? 
Why on earth wouldn’t you want that?

Because league Speedway is a team sport, not individual or pairs and I think that if the "team" is to get that extra league point then it should be about the team and not a couple of big hitters that have probably already done their job in claiming the super heat anyway... if not why not just make every team league meeting a pairs meeting? It would also help bring riders on and give them experience of pressure situation races.

[Arch Stanton]

2 minutes ago, IainB said:

Because league Speedway is a team sport, not individual or pairs and I think that if the "team" is to get that extra league point then it should be about the team and not a couple of big hitters that have probably already done their job in claiming the super heat anyway... if not why not just make every team league meeting a pairs meeting? It would also help bring riders on and give them experience of pressure situation races.

They’re still part of the team. The others have also ridden and “done their jobs”. Never gonna agree with you here. Not wanting the very best riders out on track as often as possible is absolutely bonkers. Only in Speedway. 

[szkocjasid]

On 11/12/2024 at 11:41 AM, Gavan said:

As an Ipswich fan with the best top 2 in the league I like the idea of the superheat being 2 didn’t riders to heat 15 which might sound strange as Ipswich are almost nailed on for any superheat but I agree it would add a bit of spice 

Let’s say (somehow) Kings Lynn are 4 points up against Ipswich going into heat 15 …. I would bank on Jason and Emil to get two 5-1’s

Lynn could then put their 3rd & 4th best riders out in heat 15 & save their best two for an easier superheat (if the rule was riders couldn't go in 15 & superheat).

Be more interesting tactically.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

If it came to a pick between heats 13 and 15 and the rest I'd plump to ditch the rest first over the big 2 

[Noelinho]

7 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Think the last 2 Heats as nominated (as like Poland) would be a better option.Gives the Team Manager something too think about.

That could be a good argument against, for some...

[Fromafar]

16 minutes ago, Noelinho said:

That could be a good argument against, for some...

Can see your concern 🤔😂

 

 

 

[mikebv]

On 11/14/2024 at 2:30 PM, Fromafar said:

Think the last 2 Heats as nominated (as like Poland) would be a better option.Gives the Team Manager something too think about.

Their format is certainly better..

[szkocjasid]

This was a very silly question, obviously there is a point to heat 15. Had the title been, is heat 15 fair to strength in depth clubs? Then that could've been a better post for suggestions / opinions?

[40-38]

On 11/12/2024 at 10:04 AM, IainB said:

I've thought this since day 1 and this should really be the discussion of this topic. Heat 15 is what it is, it's nominated, heat 13 isn't always guaranteed to be the "best" heat of the night, especially if your number 1 or 5 is having a bad night or gets injured, so leave that alone. The super heat should not involve any riders that have appeared in heat 15 imo, makes it more of a team result.

It probably should be something along the lines of having to use your no.7 plus AN Other rider. If you don't want to restrict to not using riders from Heat 15 then at least because the scoring system for the superheat is meant to encourage team riding, it's better with a heat leader trying to protect their no.7.

Edited November 19 by 40-38