brianbuck Posted Monday at 12:01 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:01 PM Heat 15 is more often than not, just a repeat of heat 13, and staging the fifteenth heat with nominated riders, undeniably gives a big advantage to the top heavy teams over those who have more evenly balanced sides. So I'm informed, Promoters in general want meetings to finish with a race between each team's best two riders - so surely the answer would be to scrap heat 15 and then reverse heats 13 and 14 so that the final race still theoretically features the four best riders of the evening, and by doing so, does away with this unfair advantage - and saves promoters' a bit of cash as well? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted Monday at 12:24 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:24 PM 21 minutes ago, brianbuck said: Heat 15 is more often than not, just a repeat of heat 13, and staging the fifteenth heat with nominated riders, undeniably gives a big advantage to the top heavy teams over those who have more evenly balanced sides. So I'm informed, Promoters in general want meetings to finish with a race between each team's best two riders - so surely the answer would be to scrap heat 15 and then reverse heats 13 and 14 so that the final race still theoretically features the four best riders of the evening, and by doing so, does away with this unfair advantage - and saves promoters' a bit of cash as well? ..... and saves 20 mins on the running time of the meeting. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted Monday at 12:31 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:31 PM And gives us even less racing for our money. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK62 Posted Monday at 03:20 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 03:20 PM 3 hours ago, brianbuck said: Heat 15 is more often than not, just a repeat of heat 13, and staging the fifteenth heat with nominated riders, undeniably gives a big advantage to the top heavy teams over those who have more evenly balanced sides. So I'm informed, Promoters in general want meetings to finish with a race between each team's best two riders - so surely the answer would be to scrap heat 15 and then reverse heats 13 and 14 so that the final race still theoretically features the four best riders of the evening, and by doing so, does away with this unfair advantage - and saves promoters' a bit of cash as well? So if heat 13 is a cracker you definitely don’t want to repeat it ! so replace it with a two man race ? You think a promoter wants to save a few quid but actually lose it because fans don’t want a reduction in proper four rider races and even more will turn their backs on the sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted Monday at 05:44 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 05:44 PM Also if the meeting has gone it gives a chance for a "lesser rider" or a deserving rider a chance against 2 top guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Monday at 06:16 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 06:16 PM Bewley, Kurtz, Emil And Doyle, TWICE!!! What's not to like..? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted Monday at 08:19 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 08:19 PM How about riders in heat 15 being nominated by opposing team managers? Could end up being a repeat of heat 2, but league speedway is supposed to be a team sport and it might encourage more balanced team building with strength in depth. Before anyone asks, no, I haven’t thought this through! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted Monday at 08:55 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 08:55 PM 35 minutes ago, Teromaafan said: How about riders in heat 15 being nominated by opposing team managers? Could end up being a repeat of heat 2, but league speedway is supposed to be a team sport and it might encourage more balanced team building with strength in depth. Before anyone asks, no, I haven’t thought this through! My thoughts for the Superheat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted Monday at 09:07 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 09:07 PM 48 minutes ago, Teromaafan said: How about riders in heat 15 being nominated by opposing team managers? Could end up being a repeat of heat 2, but league speedway is supposed to be a team sport and it might encourage more balanced team building with strength in depth. Before anyone asks, no, I haven’t thought this through! You can tell…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted Monday at 09:45 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 09:45 PM 32 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: You can tell…. Fair enough. Care to expand on why it would be a non starter? A team’s weakest rider having withdrawn through injury before heat 15 is an obvious flaw I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted Tuesday at 07:51 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:51 AM 10 hours ago, Teromaafan said: Fair enough. Care to expand on why it would be a non starter? A team’s weakest rider having withdrawn through injury before heat 15 is an obvious flaw I suppose. No….but your slowly getting the idea.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairboy Posted Tuesday at 09:42 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:42 AM I like the current format. I don't have a problem with H15 being a re-run of H13. But I do hate it when there is a "super-heat" and the same riders can be chosen as H15. Wouldn't it give team managers something to think about if your H15 choices couldn't be used in a subsequent super-heat? Wouldn't it be great - for the riders, and the fans - if 2 of their weaker riders were given the chance to get the glory? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Tuesday at 10:04 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:04 AM 19 minutes ago, Chairboy said: I like the current format. I don't have a problem with H15 being a re-run of H13. But I do hate it when there is a "super-heat" and the same riders can be chosen as H15. Wouldn't it give team managers something to think about if your H15 choices couldn't be used in a subsequent super-heat? Wouldn't it be great - for the riders, and the fans - if 2 of their weaker riders were given the chance to get the glory? I've thought this since day 1 and this should really be the discussion of this topic. Heat 15 is what it is, it's nominated, heat 13 isn't always guaranteed to be the "best" heat of the night, especially if your number 1 or 5 is having a bad night or gets injured, so leave that alone. The super heat should not involve any riders that have appeared in heat 15 imo, makes it more of a team result. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted Tuesday at 11:41 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:41 AM As an Ipswich fan with the best top 2 in the league I like the idea of the superheat being 2 didn’t riders to heat 15 which might sound strange as Ipswich are almost nailed on for any superheat but I agree it would add a bit of spice Let’s say (somehow) Kings Lynn are 4 points up against Ipswich going into heat 15 …. I would bank on Jason and Emil to get two 5-1’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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