Arch Stanton Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 42 minutes ago, SandyLaner said: I can't see a way JJ doesn't return - loves it here and said if it wasn't for the RS at Ipswich I certainly think he would have been in the Spires set up too. I think Gilkes will be here based on his guesting at the end of the season and the things that were said, but we can't say that for sure. Likewise I'm confident Jody Scott will be #7.... my one thought is whether we'll actually see Scotty return. Nothing concrete yet and I'm concerned that the injury at the end of the year has made him think about retirement - that's my own suspicion and is based on nothing concrete. Jenkins never wanted to be anywhere other than Ipswich in the top flight. That was his only focus and in the end, got the move he desperately wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInTheDHSS Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 7 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Jenkins never wanted to be anywhere other than Ipswich in the top flight. That was his only focus and in the end, got the move he desperately wanted. You're source for this information? I know JJ personally, and I'd love to know where you think you know this from (and so would he I'd imagine). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 2 minutes ago, BackInTheDHSS said: You're source for this information? I know JJ personally, and I'd love to know where you think you know this from (and so would he I'd imagine). You’ve done this before, sorry but I don’t believe a word you say. I’m very comfortable with what I know regarding Jenkins. If you want to believe he’d rather be at Oxford, then that’s your prerogative, but you’d be wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 (edited) 16 minutes ago, BackInTheDHSS said: You're source for this information? I know JJ personally, and I'd love to know where you think you know this from (and so would he I'd imagine). https://ipswichwitches.co/2025-signing-jordan-jenkins/ When riders sign on, there’s always a PR spin. But if he didn’t really want to be at Ipswich and would rather be elsewhere, that is the most OTT PR spin I’ve ever seen! Jenkins was wanted at Birmingham, but he refused to go there and he dug his heels in to get his move to Ipswich. Oxford also had a priority pick over Ipswich. Would Oxford seriously have picked Killeen over Jenkins if they had that choice? Not buying that one for a second. The fact is Jenkins wasn’t an option for Oxford either because he was going to Ipswich and only Ipswich. Oh, and if anyone knows the true facts here, Arch Stanton surely does! 😂 Edited November 25 by Aries 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInTheDHSS Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 8 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: You’ve done this before, sorry but I don’t believe a word you say. I’m very comfortable with what I know regarding Jenkins. If you want to believe he’d rather be at Oxford, then that’s your prerogative, but you’d be wrong. I didn't say anything this time, other than ask for your source - which is somewhat lacking still? Care to elaborate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInTheDHSS Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Aries said: Oh, and if anyone knows the true facts here, Arch Stanton surely does! He’s part of his biggest sponsor 😂 If he's part of his biggest sponsor, maybe he can just ask him personally then? Then he'd know the truth as well, instead of posting inaccuracies on here. But hey ho, each to their own. Edited November 25 by BackInTheDHSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 Ipswich had no right of retention on Jenkins because he wasn’t Ipswich’ rising star last year. Jenkins was back on the rising star list for 2025 and was available to Oxford before Ipswich due to the positions they finished in the table. So we have to believe that Oxford, having two Cheetahs riders available to them, chose a championship reserve on a championship average of 3.95, over their 3rd heatleader and clearly superior rider, on a 6.37 average? That’s not even slightly realistic come on. The fact is if Jenkins wanted to be at Spires next year then he’d be there as their rising star it’s as simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted November 25 Author Report Share Posted November 25 If Gilkes has been tapped up by Oxford, it surely means either Jenkins or Heeps won't be in the team next year. Can't see Jenkins having much trouble getting a spot elsewhere, but who would want Heeps? Big difference between his home and away average this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInTheDHSS Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Aries said: Ipswich had no right of retention on Jenkins because he wasn’t Ipswich’ rising star last year. Jenkins was back on the rising star list for 2025 and was available to Oxford before Ipswich due to the positions they finished in the table. So we have to believe that Oxford, having two Cheetahs riders available to them, chose a championship reserve on a championship average of 3.95, over their 3rd heatleader and clearly superior rider, on a 6.37 average? That’s not even slightly realistic come on. The fact is if Jenkins wanted to be at Spires next year then he’d be there as their rising star it’s as simple as that. As hard as that might be to believe, that is exactly what happened. Ask Jordan, he'll confirm it. Sadly, it's hardly the weirdest thing Pete Shroeck has done. Nobody is saying Jordan isn't happy, because he is. Just wasn't his first choice. But second choices can still be great. Edited November 25 by BackInTheDHSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyLaner Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Aries said: https://ipswichwitches.co/2025-signing-jordan-jenkins/ When riders sign on, there’s always a PR spin. But if he didn’t really want to be at Ipswich and would rather be elsewhere, that is the most OTT PR spin I’ve ever seen! Jenkins was wanted at Birmingham, but he refused to go there and he dug his heels in to get his move to Ipswich. Oxford also had a priority pick over Ipswich. Would Oxford seriously have picked Killeen over Jenkins if they had that choice? Not buying that one for a second. The fact is Jenkins wasn’t an option for Oxford either because he was going to Ipswich and only Ipswich. Oh, and if anyone knows the true facts here, Arch Stanton surely does! 😂 Read my original post. Rising Star is the reason he didn't come here. If he was not a RS this year, I think it's almost certain he would have ended up at Oxford. But with him being RS, our highest hopes are with Luke Killeen, who definitely has the highest ceiling of AB/JJ/LK so we protected that asset, as he was wanted elsewhere. Edited November 25 by SandyLaner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 On 10/18/2024 at 10:34 AM, SandyLaner said: JJ I'd imagine will stay, and Killeen is now a permanent fixture at Oxford which I'm delighted about. I genuinely feel he's got a higher ceiling than Boughen. Where does he live then if his ceiling is higher. Must be a tall building Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 39 minutes ago, SandyLaner said: Read my original post. Rising Star is the reason he didn't come here. If he was not a RS this year, I think it's almost certain he would have ended up at Oxford. But with him being RS, our highest hopes are with Luke Killeen, who definitely has the highest ceiling of AB/JJ/LK so we protected that asset, as he was wanted elsewhere. No idea why you think that, I would say Killeen has the least potential. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaddlebowRoad Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 3 minutes ago, foreverblue said: No idea why you think that, I would say Killeen has the least potential. really? id say jenkins is probably as good as hell be give or take a point or so whereas considering their ages and some performances last season both killeen & boughen potentially have a much higher ceiling if correctly nurtured and i like jenkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 1 hour ago, Aries said: Ipswich had no right of retention on Jenkins because he wasn’t Ipswich’ rising star last year. Jenkins was back on the rising star list for 2025 and was available to Oxford before Ipswich due to the positions they finished in the table. So we have to believe that Oxford, having two Cheetahs riders available to them, chose a championship reserve on a championship average of 3.95, over their 3rd heatleader and clearly superior rider, on a 6.37 average? That’s not even slightly realistic come on. The fact is if Jenkins wanted to be at Spires next year then he’d be there as their rising star it’s as simple as that. That's very realistic when the team manager is Peter Schroeck, this year they went from Kerr to Kemp to Killeen. So preferring Killeen to Jenkins is no surprise to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted November 25 Author Report Share Posted November 25 On 11/20/2024 at 9:10 PM, 4BenMoran said: Has Scott Nicholls had the operation on his shoulder he injured at end of last season yet? If not he’ll be up against it to be fit and ready for start of 2025 season. Nicholls having an operation on his shoulder tomorrow. Oxford confirmed he will miss the start of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 38 minutes ago, Bojangles said: Nicholls having an operation on his shoulder tomorrow. Oxford confirmed he will miss the start of the season. Scott confirmed this himself on his socials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 Was just scanning through Oxfords site.... Schroek won manager of the year? That has to be a wind up? Cami must be a certainty next year 🤣 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster00 Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jaizer said: Was just scanning through Oxfords site.... Schroek won manager of the year? That has to be a wind up? Cami must be a certainty next year 🤣 If those two win it back to back then I’d suggest it’s time to put that award on the shelf for a long long time. Edited November 25 by Hamster00 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 I assume Erik Riss as a temporary replacement? As he's rumoured to have signed a contract in this league but has also stated in the past he can't do a Friday track(Redcar, the other team he's rumoured for) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWellBehavedWorrall Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 19 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Honestly, I'm probably gonna eat my words in years to come, but I don't get all the hype behind Ashton. Yeah he's extremely talented on a bike for his age, but his attitude and the way he rides... I just can't see him developing into anything too crazy. Yeah he might eventually be a heatleader at Championship level, but I just honestly can't see past that. He reminds me a lot of Lewis Bridger. Bags of talent at a young age, but I just don't see him hitting full potential. I really like Glasgow and I hope it pays off for them, and it probably will, but he's not the next Bewley, Lambert, Woffinden in my eyes. I know it sounds stupid saying this already at his stage in his career, and I do hope I'm wrong... I just don't feel it with him, like I did when I first saw Robert Lambert and Dan Bewley ride, and I just can't explain why... In April of 2016, I watched a 16 year-old Dan Bewley ride for Edinburgh at Ashfield. He scored zero from four rides and in three of those races, he wasn’t far off being lapped. In the other, he fell. In April of 2024, I watched a 16 year-old Ashton Boughen ride for Oxford at Ashfield. He scored six points, including a heat win. In September of 2024, five months later, I watched the same Ashton Boughen score 13+1 at Ashfield, involving four heat wins and a victory over Chris Harris. Let’s not allow reality to get in the way of a good criticism, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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