Gazc Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 3 hours ago, Fromafar said: Getting riders would be the main issue for weekend Clubs though.Your Doyle, Bewley etc are not around UK at Weekends.Would rather just see weekly speedway,starting to lose interest in the sport these days it’s just bit of a shambles in so many ways.The racing is still Ok but that’s about all,can’t see it attracting new fans and keeping them. The losing interest part has long gone for many. The challenge to attract new supporters is a major task with such a sporadic fixture list and lack of continuity for promotions. Lets see what comes out of the AGM , not holding much hope for anything positive though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 2 hours ago, SteelShoe said: Got to agree, that's why I feel it needs a major revamp. It needs to be better, having the same teams sharing many of the same riders will not cut it indefinitely. It is a slow inexorable decline which has gathered pace in the last couple of decades, as tracks close regularly.. Therefore. What we have is pretty much all there is... There isn't anyone with a magic wand to fix all its issues, and when getting all the clubs to the end of a season, and then, hopefully, all coming to the tapes the season after, is seen as a measure of success, then it clearly shows just where the sport sits.. The business and operating model is one that no one on Dragons Den would buy into, but it is the only one they have, so just enjoy it for what it is... A night out watching some Speedway racing.. I have my tickets planned for next season already... The PCMM and the play off final, home and away... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 15 minutes ago, mikebv said: It is a slow inexorable decline which has gathered pace in the last couple of decades, as tracks close regularly.. Therefore. What we have is pretty much all there is... There isn't anyone with a magic wand to fix all its issues, and when getting all the clubs to the end of a season, and then, hopefully, all coming to the tapes the season after, is seen as a measure of success, then it clearly shows just where the sport sits.. The business and operating model is one that no one on Dragons Den would buy into, but it is the only one they have, so just enjoy it for what it is... A night out watching some Speedway racing.. I have my tickets planned for next season already... The PCMM and the play off final, home and away... There is certainly no easy fix.It is what it is now.Take it or leave it is the only answer.IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 6 hours ago, Fromafar said: Getting riders would be the main issue for weekend Clubs though.Your Doyle, Bewley etc are not around UK at Weekends.Would rather just see weekly speedway,starting to lose interest in the sport these days it’s just bit of a shambles in so many ways.The racing is still Ok but that’s about all,can’t see it attracting new fans and keeping them. Early season would be the time to run individual events... Pre Poland and Sweden.. "Well paid" practice and engine testing for the top riders before the "serious stuff" in Poland kicks in.. The first two or three weeks of the season... You would only need three or four "top riders" at each event on the Championship tracks I would suggest . Do a 12 rider field to help with costs, do some handicap racing to even up the meeting (like Wolves used to do with the Olympique) and see if a few "big names" can start your season with a bit of a bang.. Most Championship clubs are actually in "small" towns, even those with big city names, so advertising locally wouldn't cost the earth either, and most in these towns will have heard of Speedway I would think... A bit of hype in the marketing and you may get a decent start to the season, with something to advertise your club off the back of.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 21 minutes ago, mikebv said: Early season would be the time to run individual events... Pre Poland and Sweden.. "Well paid" practice and engine testing for the top riders before the "serious stuff" in Poland kicks in.. The first two or three weeks of the season... You would only need three or four "top riders" at each event on the Championship tracks I would suggest . Do a 12 rider field to help with costs, do some handicap racing to even up the meeting (like Wolves used to do with the Olympique) and see if a few "big names" can start your season with a bit of a bang.. Most Championship clubs are actually in "small" towns, even those with big city names, so advertising locally wouldn't cost the earth either, and most in these towns will have heard of Speedway I would think... A bit of hype in the marketing and you may get a decent start to the season, with something to advertise your club off the back of.. Even if the could afford it it’s still only 1 week that still leaves a lot of blanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 If one big league is what people want & they also want to see the top tier riders then the race nights will be Monday & Thursday only as it will be the new Premier league. I'm almost 100% sure that it will not happen, to many clubs cannot afford the big card riders & will suffer as crowds will shrink. it's one thing to watch the SGP stars but when your team struggles at home many will stay away. Other clubs cannot ensure crowd figures on these nights, I offer Poole as a prime example. But whatever league structure is in place in 2025 I feel Oxford have more than proved they can opperate in all available leagues & finish in good time. lets be fair had it not been for multiple rain offs/poor forecasts in the running of the finals it would have been all done by the end of September 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, Technik said: If one big league is what people want & they also want to see the top tier riders then the race nights will be Monday & Thursday only as it will be the new Premier league. I'm almost 100% sure that it will not happen, to many clubs cannot afford the big card riders & will suffer as crowds will shrink. it's one thing to watch the SGP stars but when your team struggles at home many will stay away. Other clubs cannot ensure crowd figures on these nights, I offer Poole as a prime example. But whatever league structure is in place in 2025 I feel Oxford have more than proved they can opperate in all available leagues & finish in good time. lets be fair had it not been for multiple rain offs/poor forecasts in the running of the finals it would have been all done by the end of September Like you say it’s not unrealistic to run 2H 2A even with the Oxford situation if they had a rain off they could always run double header with aNDL match to catch up.Im sure it wouldn’t hurt their finances that much,especially if the crowd levels are what are being said. Edited October 29 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 1 hour ago, Technik said: If one big league is what people want & they also want to see the top tier riders then the race nights will be Monday & Thursday only as it will be the new Premier league. I'm almost 100% sure that it will not happen, to many clubs cannot afford the big card riders & will suffer as crowds will shrink. it's one thing to watch the SGP stars but when your team struggles at home many will stay away. Other clubs cannot ensure crowd figures on these nights, I offer Poole as a prime example. But whatever league structure is in place in 2025 I feel Oxford have more than proved they can opperate in all available leagues & finish in good time. lets be fair had it not been for multiple rain offs/poor forecasts in the running of the finals it would have been all done by the end of September I'm pretty sure it won't happen but I think the time is right to seriously think about It. Polish Speedway is probably the biggest obstacle. It will be interesting to see how Oxford crowds hold up next season and how they have held up since the 2022 season. Could still be in the honeymoon period maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted October 30 Report Share Posted October 30 Can anyone divert Ryan Reynolds/Rob McElhenney to the NSS when they are over filming? That sort of interest would catapult the sport back to where it belongs. They're interested in investing into cricket and motorsport if rumours are to be believed, shame there's no history of the sport in Wrexham 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 On 10/29/2024 at 7:29 PM, Fromafar said: Like you say it’s not unrealistic to run 2H 2A even with the Oxford situation if they had a rain off they could always run double header with aNDL match to catch up.Im sure it wouldn’t hurt their finances that much,especially if the crowd levels are what are being said. If, and it isn't going to happen , the championship went 2 H and 2A then I doubt very much that Oxford, or even Leicester , Redcar or Edinburgh would run in the NDL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 On 10/30/2024 at 10:20 AM, DJC said: They're interested in investing into cricket and motorsport if rumours are to be believed, shame there's no history of the sport in Wrexham Haven't they already got a stake in the Alpine F1 team, I think? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BenMoran Posted Wednesday at 09:10 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 09:10 PM Has Scott Nicholls had the operation on his shoulder he injured at end of last season yet? If not he’ll be up against it to be fit and ready for start of 2025 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted Wednesday at 09:20 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 09:20 PM 9 minutes ago, 4BenMoran said: Has Scott Nicholls had the operation on his shoulder he injured at end of last season yet? If not he’ll be up against it to be fit and ready for start of 2025 season. It'll be ok, microphones don't weigh too much!😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Saturday at 09:01 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:01 AM Is it possible that Oxford wanted Masters for both the Spires & Cheetahs then when he stayed at Leicester, they decided to go with Riss in both teams? Riss & Nicholls as a spearhead? Masters to Edinburgh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted Saturday at 09:27 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:27 AM 25 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Is it possible that Oxford wanted Masters for both the Spires & Cheetahs then when he stayed at Leicester, they decided to go with Riss in both teams? Riss & Nicholls as a spearhead? Masters to Edinburgh? Riss will be at Redcar imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Saturday at 06:34 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 06:34 PM 9 hours ago, lewy said: Riss will be at Redcar imo That wouldn't surprise me, just think it'd make sense for more Spires / Cheetahs doubling up, last year just Boughen (till Killeen at the end of the season) so far this year, just Killeen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted Saturday at 07:41 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 07:41 PM How much they really like the track may come into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Racin Jason 72 Posted Sunday at 06:39 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 06:39 PM 21 minutes ago, BluPanther said: Seems a shame that after all the support and help he has received from Oxford he hasn’t been as loyal as his employer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted Sunday at 06:51 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 06:51 PM I’d jump ship for a nice juicy signing on fee as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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