Stadium Admission Prices

[Daniel Smith]

Here we are again, some have revisited entry pricing. I've heard also on the AGM agenda is another £2 increase for 2025.

So, £24/£25 for Premiership, £22/£23 for Championship. 

While chatting they said these prices are set by the BSPL & individual clubs are not allowed to set their own entrance prices more or less than £2.

This seems outrageous to me and surely against trading law? If an owner is happy to take losses, why not allow them to charge what they want?

For years now many say Speedway in the UK is a £10 sport, and it's probably right but global inflation costs would probably put it to £15 maybe?

Just sitting here thinking radical ideas and the only one I can come up with is this. Is a 💡 moment?

Set the price across both Premiership & Championship the same at £15. No OAP concessions U18s & Full Time Students free.

At the stadium entrance / exit a one tap donation card reader accepts £5.

Would clubs find it easier to get 500 - 700 extra spectators at £15?

Would spectators be willing to donate at the £5 terminal?

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Any other genuine ideas out their to increase the numbers on the terraces?

 

[LagutaRacingFan]

The OAP discount needs to be abolished.

Pensioners are an incredibly rich generation.

[davieb1]

1 minute ago, LagutaRacingFan said:

The OAP discount needs to be abolished.

Pensioners are an incredibly rich generation.

i doubt it 

it rules me out 

im not a pensioner until next year

 

[WRDukes]

10 minutes ago, LagutaRacingFan said:

The OAP discount needs to be abolished.

Pensioners are an incredibly rich generation.

Well according to LIEbour's own internal report the ending of the Winter Fuel allowance will kill off around 4000 of 'em.  Then again it's cheaper than the Tory option of using Midazolam.  As for incredibly rich generation?

 

[Fromafar]

Don’t see crowd levels rising in significant numbers nowadays whatever they charge.Streaming and BSN seem to be the way forward to generate more income .Fuel and travel costs make it more unaffordable to a lot of fans.Climate plays apart too,fans prefer to stay away if dodgy weather nowadays.(or at least I do).

Edited October 14 by Fromafar

[Youhave2minutes]

2 hours ago, davieb1 said:

i doubt it 

it rules me out 

im not a pensioner until next year

 

Same here.

[Daniel Smith]

2 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Don’t see crowd levels rising in significant numbers nowadays whatever they charge.Streaming and BSN seem to be the way forward to generate more income .Fuel and travel costs make it more unaffordable to a lot of fans.Climate plays apart too,fans prefer to stay away if dodgy weather nowadays.(or at least I do).

That's a fair point & 100% agree. The death of Speedway as a stadium spectator sport has been long & slow.

So are we at the point in the UK where all tracks need permanent cameras & every meeting can be watched from the comfort of the sofa?

I'd pay £20 / £25 a month for King's Lynn home & away fixtures. Stadiums then remain accessible for spectators at £15.

A 2 fold income stream would be better than just the £25 trackside in this generation, would it not??

BSN could become what Eurosports was & meant to be before Discovery destroyed it.

Every meeting Live online of my club would be the dream

[Byker Biker]

3 hours ago, LagutaRacingFan said:

The OAP discount needs to be abolished.

Pensioners are an incredibly rich generation.

This forum would be f**kt without you!

[Fromafar]

19 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

That's a fair point & 100% agree. The death of Speedway as a stadium spectator sport has been long & slow.

So are we at the point in the UK where all tracks need permanent cameras & every meeting can be watched from the comfort of the sofa?

I'd pay £20 / £25 a month for King's Lynn home & away fixtures. Stadiums then remain accessible for spectators at £15.

A 2 fold income stream would be better than just the £25 trackside in this generation, would it not??

BSN could become what Eurosports was & meant to be before Discovery destroyed it.

Every meeting Live online of my club would be the dream

You can’t beat being at the match live but let’s be honest numbers are not increasing at live matches and just putting up admission prices up won’t really help.All this what you pay to watch or see something else is just nonsense.Value for money is what matters.Other bike sport are thriving but the circumstances are different.There is lack of atmosphere at the most matches these day probably due to crowd levels.Matches is Poland are probably no better at times but the crowd levels and atmosphere are something else.

[The White Knight]

4 hours ago, LagutaRacingFan said:

The OAP discount needs to be abolished.

Pensioners are an incredibly rich generation.

I wonder if you would say that if you were one (Pensioner). I somehow doubt it.

It is largely PENSIONERS who are keeping Speedway going in this country and have done for years.

Some Pensioners ARE rich, however, a hell of a lot aren't. You need to think about that.

[Daniel Smith]

17 minutes ago, The White Knight said:

I wonder if you would say that if you were one (Pensioner). I somehow doubt it.

It is largely PENSIONERS who are keeping Speedway going in this country and have done for years.

Some Pensioners ARE rich, however, a hell of a lot aren't. You need to think about that.

Think it's fair to say that if you're a pensioner & poor, it's not likely they're attending Speedway anyway.

If you are already attending Speedway, you can manage an extra £2.

[The White Knight]

4 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:

Think it's fair to say that if you're a pensioner & poor, it's not likely they're attending Speedway anyway.

If you are already attending Speedway, you can manage an extra £2.

You couldn't be more wrong. You shouldn't assume. I am, however, a Pensioner and I am aware of those not so fortunate as myself. To some of them, a two pound extra could be the difference between attending or not. You don't know what the situation is for Pensioners, poor or not.

"Think it's fair to say" that you are a young person who is fairly well off, lacking understanding of other people's circumstances.

[Daniel Smith]

55 minutes ago, The White Knight said:

You couldn't be more wrong. You shouldn't assume. I am, however, a Pensioner and I am aware of those not so fortunate as myself. To some of them, a two pound extra could be the difference between attending or not. You don't know what the situation is for Pensioners, poor or not.

"Think it's fair to say" that you are a young person who is fairly well off, lacking understanding of other people's circumstances.

I'm in my 40s, disabled & broke. If I was still going to meetings paying the concession price, I wouldn't sweat over £2-£4.

Concessions is an old idea to cover the 'blue collar' workers whose bodies had packed up by 55.

Pretty much all those hard slog jobs don't exist anymore and people in to their 70s are way fitter than a 70yo, 30 years ago.

If concessions are a need, it should simply be for the disabled & blue badge holders.

Just because you're "old" shouldn't give an automatic right to money off. That's absurd in 2024.

Anyway, this ain't for this thread. Thanks @LagutaRacingFan for stirring that hornet nest 🤣

[steve roberts]

17 hours ago, LagutaRacingFan said:

The OAP discount needs to be abolished.

Pensioners are an incredibly rich generation.

Bit of a generalisation?

[kevin bass]

Don't think it's just the increase in admission prices that could put the older generation off, which we all know makes up the majority of all clubs fan base, it's also the cold and wet weather we nearly always get at the start and end of every season, my parents are a prime example, their both in their mid 80's bless um and have been going to speedway for as long as i can remember and used to have a season ticket for Ipswich, Lynn, P'boro and Mildenhall, obviously 2 of those teams no longer run but my parents haven't purchased a season ticket for Ipi or Lynn for the last couple of yrs mainly because of the weather being so unpredictable ie rain offs or just because they ain't keen on turning out on a cold wet evening, i got them hooked up to BSN and have purchased them a season pass the last couple of seasons now and their quite happy to get their weekly fix of speedway in the comfort of their own front room and only take in an actual live match so to speak if the weather is nailed on to be decent.

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, kevin bass said:

Don't think it's just the increase in admission prices that could put the older generation off, which we all know makes up the majority of all clubs fan base, it's also the cold and wet weather we nearly always get at the start and end of every season, my parents are a prime example, their both in their mid 80's bless um and have been going to speedway for as long as i can remember and used to have a season ticket for Ipswich, Lynn, P'boro and Mildenhall, obviously 2 of those teams no longer run but my parents haven't purchased a season ticket for Ipi or Lynn for the last couple of yrs mainly because of the weather being so unpredictable ie rain offs or just because they ain't keen on turning out on a cold wet evening, i got them hooked up to BSN and have purchased them a season pass the last couple of seasons now and their quite happy to get their weekly fix of speedway in the comfort of their own front room and only take in an actual live match so to speak if the weather is nailed on to be decent.

Would agree with that.

[DaveWayne]

20 hours ago, WRDukes said:

Well according to LIEbour's own internal report the ending of the Winter Fuel allowance will kill off around 4000 of 'em.  Then again it's cheaper than the Tory option of using Midazolam.  As for incredibly rich generation?

 

Yes the state pension is poor but people can make provision for themselves as well. My Dad is 87 and very comfortable due to not assuming the state would look after him in his old age, and no he wasn't in a high paid job, he was blue collar working class and Mum was a housewife. Private pensions were introduced in the UK in 1988, and many companies had occupational schemes before that. Anyone under the age of 80 who is living purely on state pension hasn't planned ahead very well.

[topaz325]

In reality the sport should be charging around £15.00 in the championship but rider costs and promotional costs would are the reasons it’s around the £20.00 mark.

To say that lowering the price would bring more people in is probably untrue.

At the moment with the current price structure many promoters are struggling to keep open and rely heavily on sponsors to survive.

Edited October 15 by topaz325

[heathen52]

22 hours ago, DaveWayne said:

Yes the state pension is poor but people can make provision for themselves as well. My Dad is 87 and very comfortable due to not assuming the state would look after him in his old age, and no he wasn't in a high paid job, he was blue collar working class and Mum was a housewife. Private pensions were introduced in the UK in 1988, and many companies had occupational schemes before that. Anyone under the age of 80 who is living purely on state pension hasn't planned ahead very well.

I am one of your pensioners living only on state pension, I paid my NI and Taxes from when i left school until I was about 70 actually i paid Tax as Ni stopped at retirement but has changed again recently, lets get this straight most of my generation expected the state pension would be enough to live off, other gold plated pensions were/are for civil servants, council workers, NHS etc etc they are the ones that have a decent standard of living, neither am i one of the pensioners of which there are more and more that has had a property or such like left in a will, so yes some pensioners have never had it so good but others have to rely solely on state pension, and then you have those on pension credit who for various reasons did not pay enough into the system yet end up better off (housing benefit, council tax paid, free dental care, optical care, winter fuel payments) than those that did, don't say i didn't plan ahead it's the people that abused the system (Mental Health is the new lazy ) then and now that need sorting out but none of our politicians will grasp the nettle.

[1 valve]

Its difficult to imagine, why UK speedway promoters believe they can disprove the saying, "if you keep doing what you've always done, then you will always get what you've always got" - and grow the sport whilst still serving up the same old......"speedway, the family sport" concept. 

They have, for many a year failed to add (or even provide) value to the show they put on, whilst nearly every other sport has, be it improved facilities, different formats, world class social media etc. The result, Cricket, golf, football, Rugby and more all report increases in attendance & revenues whilst speedway struggles to (survive) significantly grow its fan base . All these sports regularly increase their admission prices and sure some fans may voice their discontent, but the the sport thrives.

In the great scheme of things £22.00 is not a great deal of money to spend (neither is it insignificant) but if a person only has that type of discretionary amount available, then it comes down to choice, and the event providing the most perceived value for money will more than probable, get the nod and for many, that is not UK speedway.