BackInTheDHSS Posted October 9 Report Share Posted October 9 Having watched Vinnie Foord crash six times in his last three meetings (and take out two air fences), is he too dangerous? Should there be some sort of speedway exam (like a driving test) riders should take before being allowed to race against other riders? He’s going to cause someone serious harm. 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted October 9 Report Share Posted October 9 No 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 (edited) I don't think a Speedway exam would do any good, I'm sure he could ride round safely in practice. But against two opponents in a grand final, every rider is going to race harder, go for gaps they normally wouldn't etc. The only crash I've seen was his one with Jody Scott, I'd have excluded Vinnie, but wouldn't call that dangerous riding. Not seen enough of him to comment on his other crashes. Edited October 10 by szkocjasid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 From what I seen lastnight and listening to his interview, hes going to seriously hurt someone soon if he doesnt tone it down. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcone44 Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 7 hours ago, BackInTheDHSS said: Having watched Vinnie Foord crash six times in his last three meetings (and take out two air fences), is he too dangerous? Should there be some sort of speedway exam (like a driving test) riders should take before being allowed to race against other riders? He’s going to cause someone serious harm. are you from the government ,and your here to help. 🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 He appears to have arrived in to adult Speedway with something of a reputation from the Youth ranks of being a bit of an "indian rubber man" e.g he falls off a lot but bounces very well. He's certainly got no fear from what I've seen and is frigteningly quick. He probably has the raw speed and talent to go a very very long way BUT to do that he'll need to stay fit and he'll need to learn race-craft and race-craft is not having the throttle on the end stop for 4 laps! I've read he has guidance from David Norris, a great rider and a fantastic charachter but again, I'm not always convinced great riders are the best mentors. How do you Coach someone who is a natural and a bit of a maverick is always a challenge in any Sport as you can't coach out what comes naturally without affecting that natural ability. A bit of a conundrum really. The one thing he can control though, and which should be taught him very quickly; is his behaviour respect and decorum OFF the track, as that will get him in to more bother potentially if he can't rein it in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 12 minutes ago, HGould said: He appears to have arrived in to adult Speedway with something of a reputation from the Youth ranks of being a bit of an "indian rubber man" e.g he falls off a lot but bounces very well. He's certainly got no fear from what I've seen and is frigteningly quick. He probably has the raw speed and talent to go a very very long way BUT to do that he'll need to stay fit and he'll need to learn race-craft and race-craft is not having the throttle on the end stop for 4 laps! I've read he has guidance from David Norris, a great rider and a fantastic charachter but again, I'm not always convinced great riders are the best mentors. How do you Coach someone who is a natural and a bit of a maverick is always a challenge in any Sport as you can't coach out what comes naturally without affecting that natural ability. A bit of a conundrum really. The one thing he can control though, and which should be taught him very quickly; is his behaviour respect and decorum OFF the track, as that will get him in to more bother potentially if he can't rein it in. Your last paragraph should also apply to the small group of very hostile Oxford 'fans' - many of whom were older and should know better- who cheered and gesticulated when he hit the airfence in front of them which undoubtedly provoked his reaction. It's the first time i've ever witnessed stadium security being called to attend to their behaviour. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 29 minutes ago, HGould said: He appears to have arrived in to adult Speedway with something of a reputation from the Youth ranks of being a bit of an "indian rubber man" e.g he falls off a lot but bounces very well. He's certainly got no fear from what I've seen and is frigteningly quick. He probably has the raw speed and talent to go a very very long way BUT to do that he'll need to stay fit and he'll need to learn race-craft and race-craft is not having the throttle on the end stop for 4 laps! I've read he has guidance from David Norris, a great rider and a fantastic charachter but again, I'm not always convinced great riders are the best mentors. How do you Coach someone who is a natural and a bit of a maverick is always a challenge in any Sport as you can't coach out what comes naturally without affecting that natural ability. A bit of a conundrum really. The one thing he can control though, and which should be taught him very quickly; is his behaviour respect and decorum OFF the track, as that will get him in to more bother potentially if he can't rein it in. That's weird that he has guidance from Norris. When he was interviewed I thought he reminded me a bit of him from the way he spoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 5 minutes ago, Grachan said: That's weird that he has guidance from Norris. When he was interviewed I thought he reminded me a bit of him from the way he spoke. His hair is a bit floppy too!!🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 How old is Vinnie? 17? A young lad who is fearless, aggressive, but lacks the skillset currently to match his ambition. Certainly one for the future and Poole need to hang onto him for next season if possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 what an awfull thread this is 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInTheDHSS Posted October 10 Author Report Share Posted October 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, SteveLyric2 said: Your last paragraph should also apply to the small group of very hostile Oxford 'fans' - many of whom were older and should know better- who cheered and gesticulated when he hit the airfence in front of them which undoubtedly provoked his reaction. It's the first time i've ever witnessed stadium security being called to attend to their behaviour. And that had nothing to do with Vinnie taking out Killeen and then celebrating in front of the Oxford fans as the ambulance was coming out on the track. It set the tone for the whole evening, absolutely classless, and the atmosphere would have been totally different. What did you expect the Oxford fans to do? Say: "jolly good old chap, what a great a show you're putting on." Edited October 10 by BackInTheDHSS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds On Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 Right now he is raw and fully full of teen spirit!....however he is either going to hurt himself or someone else, last night he made the same mistake three times in the very same place, lifting coming out of bend two. He'll either learn very quickly or someone will teach him the hard way, lets be honest he nailed two riders last night but do that to some seasoned pro's who have a memory like a elephant and he'll be in the wrong place at the wrong time. I like his enthusiasm and careless attitude, just fine tune it a little. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 6 minutes ago, Odds On said: Right now he is raw and fully full of teen spirit!....however he is either going to hurt himself or someone else, last night he made the same mistake three times in the very same place, lifting coming out of bend two. He'll either learn very quickly or someone will teach him the hard way, lets be honest he nailed two riders last night but do that to some seasoned pro's who have a memory like a elephant and he'll be in the wrong place at the wrong time. I like his enthusiasm and careless attitude, just fine tune it a little. 100% someone will take him out, he will be riding with a marked card on his back if he carrys on like he did last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 1 hour ago, SteveLyric2 said: Your last paragraph should also apply to the small group of very hostile Oxford 'fans' - many of whom were older and should know better- who cheered and gesticulated when he hit the airfence in front of them which undoubtedly provoked his reaction. It's the first time i've ever witnessed stadium security being called to attend to their behaviour. Not True, when we was there for play off final security were called to us lot and got very aggressive. but luckily they was no match for us lot who sent them packing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 1 hour ago, montie said: what an awfull thread this is Need to air this under dangerous rider thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwaySlider72 Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 Vinnie seems to ride with a bit too much throttle and too little brain. Maybe one of the senior riders can encourage him to be more sensible? That or the mounting repair bills for his bikes might do it. It a shame for those that get caught up in his reckless path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 Apparently in the pits the area developed a scrap yard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2ohh Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 I can see a Roy Keane moment in the future , just waiting for the right moment for payback . could end up being the modern day Jack Millan , he was taking chances with other riders lives . the day will come and he will not know anything about it or who dealt it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 4 minutes ago, j2ohh said: I can see a Roy Keane moment in the future , just waiting for the right moment for payback . could end up being the modern day Jack Millan , he was taking chances with other riders lives . the day will come and he will not know anything about it or who dealt it . Total rubbish.t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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