yellowspanner Posted May 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 According to someone who was in Prague, their was only one paramedic/doctor on the track! Marvellous - that makes sense....... NOT!! How can you run a GP like that?? AFAIK for EL meetings you must have two qualified first aiders at each end, an ambulance and a doctor. Obviously there is often more cover than this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 No problem - seems you have already forgiven me for being a Pirate fan.... It's all of us living on the South Coast that does it YS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beercellar Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Was it just me or did the medics take a hell of a long time to reach two possibly badly injured riders last night??? According to someone who was in Prague, their was only one paramedic/doctor on the track! um,and who was that i wonder (if i didnt already no) ALAN by any chance ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 you must have two qualified first aiders at each end Too much, I'm qualified can I have a job pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee Kiss of life needed or not they're gonna get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowspanner Posted May 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Too much, I'm qualified can I have a job pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee Kiss of life needed or not they're gonna get it Your qualifications will first need to be rigorously examined to prove competence..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discoll Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 I noticed last year the difference between riders when they come off in a spill. OK it relates mostly to watching PL racing for me but the more experienced riders even in relatively straight forward looking spills tend to take their time getting up (when a race has been stopped I mean!). I think that shows they have learned by experience! Certainly makes more sense to me - last thing you want to do is make any injury or potential injury worse. It is the more experienced riders that take their time to get off the track and it is often for medical reasons, Think of the poor mechanic who has to run back with the bike and get it straight again for the rerun. After killing the first four or five the rider realises he better try and hang on to the next bloke and buy him a bit of time. It is a well-known fact that referees believe you can rebuild a bike in two minutes. Another well-known fact is that riders always fall of or crash the furthest distance from the pits just to see who has the least fit mechanic. Seriously I am glad both Tony and Greg walked away from nasty looking crashes and I hope at last they will do something about the air fences on the straights. (Or should that be straightaways) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 (edited) Your qualifications will first need to be rigorously examined to prove competence..... Can I choose who does the testing Edited May 21, 2004 by shazzybird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 According to someone who was in Prague, their was only one paramedic/doctor on the track! Marvellous - that makes sense....... NOT!! How can you run a GP like that?? AFAIK for EL meetings you must have two qualified first aiders at each end, an ambulance and a doctor. Obviously there is often more cover than this For all meetings in the UK you are required to have one medical officer (paramedic/doctor), one ambulance, one driver, one attendant and two first aiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 I just got de-ja-vu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Sorry Shazzy the point I was trying to make was that you can have a doctor or paramedic here. To add to whoever said that there was just one paramedic at Prague, there was obviously an ambulance and crew as well. Some may argue they should have been on the track but as happens here in the UK the medical staff are not always on track, some referee will insist on this and others won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowspanner Posted May 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Can I choose who does the testing Who would you have in mind??? And what qualifications would they need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 I think Yellowspanner and Shazzy need to get a room or MSN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 With our postings almost 3hrs apart I don't think theres much chance of a lengthy msn chat nor any need to get a room, I only wanna practise kiss o' life on some poor unsuspecting victim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 You're quite right, they were sluggish at best. I thought TRick had a badly broken arm, or worse, because he just lay motionless. Next time Tony wiggle your toes or something. Rather like the medical staff at Monmore. Can you believe the doctor is 'walking' with a limp!!! One of the lads in the second half crashed, and was down for a while. The doctor was only just out of the pit gate before he was able to get up. If there was an emergency on the 3rd/4th turn he'd never get there in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JY2003 Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Was it just me or did the medics take a hell of a long time to reach two possibly badly injured riders last night??? According to someone who was in Prague, their was only one paramedic/doctor on the track! um,and who was that i wonder (if i didnt already no) ALAN by any chance ? I wonder who it was.........????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Can you believe the doctor is 'walking' with a limp!!! One of the lads in the second half crashed, and was down for a while. The doctor was only just out of the pit gate before he was able to get up. If there was an emergency on the 3rd/4th turn he'd never get there in time. lol....many's the time I recall good old Carlo Biaggi being given a lift on the back of a bike from the pits to the 1st and 2nd turn at Powderhall when there was a crash there. His "lack of mobility" never stopped him being one of the most respected doctors in speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 hehehe.. the comment made about riders falling off as far away from the pits as possible is so true. I spannered for Matej Ferjan at Oxford when he and Toni Svab rode together for Ipswich a few years ago. Matej and Svab had this problem with each other.. for some reason that I don't know about, they hated each other and got in each others way a lot that season. This particular night, it was their first race of the evening and they clashed from the start and both fell on the apex of the first and second bends.. carnage ensued.. bikes and riders everywhere.. guess who had the job of running all the way from the pits on the third/fourth bends to recover the bike.. yep, ME!! I can tell you something now.. I'd rather run a marathon each day than push one of those bikes at speed from one end of the track to the other.. then you have to get the clutch cleaned out and so on.. I slept well that night, thats for sure. And on the comments about TRick deliberately laying still on track after crashing in the GP.. its common practice..You don't know at the time what dammage has been done, specially when part of your body, in TRick's case his hand, has been trapped in the bike. I remember having to help cut Lol Hare from the front wheel of Shaun Tacey's bike at Ipswich when they crashed together at Ipswich. Not a nice thing to have to do as you really dont know what to expect when they have been freed.. Fingers have been known to have been severed and the gloves are intact.. so the policy is to lay still and let the right people free you. Tomasz Gollob's actions in asking his mechanic for a spanner immediately to remove TRicks front wheel showed the concerns of those there. I was just thankfull that all riders involved in incidents at the GP were able to walk away relatively unharmed.. And yes I agree that the medical staff in Prague were not up to the job.. BSI get it sorted before you have a serious incident on your hands!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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