Birmingham Speedway

[Hamish McRaker]

5 minutes ago, Aries said:

“We like to do things by the book” if that is a sly dig at Ipswich then he’s just made himself look more daft. As said above, Morris has confirmed the points limit was agreed a month ago during meetings leading up to the AGM. If Ipswich choose to then reveal their team before the conference then quite frankly, that’s none of Tolley’s business or anyone else’s come to that. Quit the jealous salty snide remarks and concentrate on building your own team that the Birmingham supporters can enjoy watching. 

And Mr Tolley can say what he likes, providing it's within the Law of the country and within SCB rules. Does what he's said add some spice to things? Yes! Could it fall flat and leave him looking foolish? Yes!

But he takes that chance and, as you'd say, that's none of anyone else's business😁

[Bojangles]

17 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:

Part of the dislike for Poole is that they’re very successful. Happens in any sport when a team is so successful and dominant, they become disliked by fans of other clubs. That can hardly be labelled at Ipswich! The club haven’t won a league title for many many years. It’s all a bit strange to be honest but hey ho. 

The main part of the dislike for Poole is the way their fans behave, surely?

Edited 3 hours ago by Bojangles

[Arch Stanton]

Just now, Bojangles said:

Do people dislike Poole? I though the majority of people actually quite liked them. It's the Poole fans people dislike isn't it?

All one and the same really isn’t it? It’s all one entity surely. 

[Bojangles]

Just now, Arch Stanton said:

All one and the same really isn’t it? It’s all one entity surely. 

Yeah, I edited my previous post to try and clarify that a bit. Don't think it's totally the same - some serial winners are loved (the likes of Roger Federer/Usain Bolt come to mind), while others are disliked (Floyd Mayweather, etc.) because of the way they act.

[Aries]

4 minutes ago, Bojangles said:

The main part of the dislike for Poole is the way their fans behave, surely?

If you dislike the fans then you dislike Poole. How do you separate them? 

[Bojangles]

1 minute ago, Aries said:

If you dislike the fans then you dislike Poole. How do you separate them? 

You dislike them because of the fans behaviour, NOT just because of the success.

Edited 3 hours ago by Bojangles

[Hamish McRaker]

2 minutes ago, Bojangles said:

Because you dislike them because of the fans behaviour, NOT because of the success.

You can admire and respect the capability of a person or an organisation, but liking them/it is often not guaranteed. Margaret Thatcher was an example ( for me).

[Arch Stanton]

13 minutes ago, Bojangles said:

Yeah, I edited my previous post to try and clarify that a bit. Don't think it's totally the same - some serial winners are loved (the likes of Roger Federer/Usain Bolt come to mind), while others are disliked (Floyd Mayweather, etc.) because of the way they act.

 

11 minutes ago, Bojangles said:

You dislike them because of the fans behaviour, NOT just because of the success.

I think it’s both personally. Individuals are a bit different to team sports. Liverpool was always unpopular with just about everybody other than Liverpool supporters back in the day because they were so dominant. The same for Manchester United in the 90’s. Fans of other clubs will be jealous and want to see them knocked off their perch. The best victories in matches will nearly always be against those clubs at the time. Nothing wrong with that it’s human nature I suppose. 
 

Does happen with individuals as well though. Steve Davis was universally unpopular in the 80’s, but when Hendry came along and his success dried up, he suddenly became far more popular and supported and Hendry then became unpopular!

Edited 3 hours ago by Arch Stanton

[GiveusaB]

I'm sure everyone at B'ham wish Brennan all the best....he was one of the very few highlights from 2024!

How can Tolley or anyone from B'ham be disgruntled towards Ipswich? they were the only team that let us win away last season ?.... joke! 😃

[SaddlebowRoad]

presumably ippo spoke to brennan while still contracted to brum? ie in the summer

all clubs do it and its nothing new but i guess strictly speaking it's against the rules

just playing devils advocate as to what tolleys issue might be 

[GiveusaB]

I think there's more being made of it, than what it is?

He has every right to feel disappointed that his best rider of last season has decided to leave...human nature!

As for doing things by the book? C'mon...his right hand man is L.R ?

That's not a dig...L.R with all his experience, just knows how to navigate the rules....

I'm sure nobody's bothered who Brennan has signed for....riders come and go all the time....it's just that he performed 'slightly' better than average! (he only put 0.7 on his average)

Edited 2 hours ago by GiveusaB

[Pauldoveyspeedway]

5 hours ago, GiveusaB said:

Tolleys latest statement of B'ham about to be revealing a brand new No.1 , well and truly rules out the return of F.L !

Museliak and Thorsell as top 2....

I definitely think that Worrall will return....Kerr goes well round PB, would be a reasonable choice at reserve....

Need 2 strong second strings...hoping Douglas is one of them!

It doesnt  rule out F.L because  his ave is slightly  lower than Musielak..Cant see Freddie  coming back next year tho ..

[GiveusaB]

42 minutes ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said:

It doesnt  rule out F.L because  his ave is slightly  lower than Musielak..Cant see Freddie  coming back next year tho ..

Fair point!

[Youhave2minutes]

3 hours ago, Aries said:

If you dislike the fans then you dislike Poole. How do you separate them? 

The fence separate them surely