Birmingham Speedway

[Diamonds85]

I think a lot of people are underestimating Jonas Jeppesen. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he's going to be knocking doors out of windows, but if he's on a 4.50 average he'll make a mockery of it. I see him low to mid 6 by the end of the season? Depending on injuries etc. I thought he was originally on a 6.00 average that he would maintain it.

[DaveWayne]

4 hours ago, GiveusaB said:

True....but if you're planning on buying a season ticket, stories like this might make u think twice?

I see this sort of comment on various threads during the 'team building' period and I must admit it confuses me to some degree. I assumed that people who bought season tickets were dedicated fans who follow their team through the good times and the bad. As a football season ticket holder, the 'early bird' period is usually immediately after the previous season ends, which is over a month before the transfer window even opens. Most people buying football season tickets have no idea who many of their players will be for the coming season. If you are a supporter, you are a supporter.

[Pauldoveyspeedway]

1 hour ago, Diamonds85 said:

I think a lot of people are underestimating Jonas Jeppesen. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he's going to be knocking doors out of windows, but if he's on a 4.50 average he'll make a mockery of it. I see him low to mid 6 by the end of the season? Depending on injuries etc. I thought he was originally on a 6.00 average that he would maintain it.

Would do even better if he'd been at number 6..And brum gone to the limit..Like i said...

[Diamonds85]

Just now, Pauldoveyspeedway said:

Would do even better if he'd been at number 6..And brum gone to the limit..Like i said...

Don't disagree

[SaddlebowRoad]

3 hours ago, DaveWayne said:

I see this sort of comment on various threads during the 'team building' period and I must admit it confuses me to some degree. I assumed that people who bought season tickets were dedicated fans who follow their team through the good times and the bad. As a football season ticket holder, the 'early bird' period is usually immediately after the previous season ends, which is over a month before the transfer window even opens. Most people buying football season tickets have no idea who many of their players will be for the coming season. If you are a supporter, you are a supporter.

but also if theres a chance you are going to struggle or be cannon fodder why would you commit to going every week

doesnt make you any less of a fan if you decide against going to every meeting 

[Pauldoveyspeedway]

1 hour ago, Diamonds85 said:

Don't disagree

At 6 he would have done well ...with most teams been poor at reserve. Its difficult in the team in your first year ..

[IainB]

12 minutes ago, SaddlebowRoad said:

doesnt make you any less of a fan if you decide against going to every meeting 

Assuming the word fan is shorthand for fanatic... I would suggest it does. You're probably more of a follower of Speedway or an occasional attendee than a "fan"

Edited yesterday at 05:14 PM by IainB

[szkocjasid]

4 hours ago, Diamonds85 said:

I think a lot of people are underestimating Jonas Jeppesen. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he's going to be knocking doors out of windows, but if he's on a 4.50 average he'll make a mockery of it. I see him low to mid 6 by the end of the season? Depending on injuries etc. I thought he was originally on a 6.00 average that he would maintain it.

With Birmingham building below the limit, no one is really on a "bargain average". If Jeppesen goes from a 4.5 to a 6, but the team would still been legal if he started on a 6, then no advantage has been gained.

For Birmingham's point of view, I hope you're right & he does average 6.

Edited yesterday at 05:58 PM by szkocjasid

[szkocjasid]

6 hours ago, StarBoy said:

What do we think the averages of the Brummies team will be for ‘25? If the regulations remain the same as ‘24 then I see it being as this:

1. Musielak - 8.21

2. Jeppessen - 4.5

3. Zagar - 7.2

4. Rew - 5.67

5. Jepsen Jensen - 7.5

6. Voulas - 4.13

7. Edwards - RS

Total - 37.21

It's not an awful team, but the fact they'd have to put 2.8 on their averages to even reach the points limit feels like an opportunity lost to really challenge at the top.

Can't blame Birmingham if a rider chooses to go, but just imagine Brennan instead of Vuolas.

[SaddlebowRoad]

1 hour ago, IainB said:

Assuming the word fan is shorthand for fanatic... I would suggest it does. You're probably more of a follower of Speedway or an occasional attendee than a "fan"

i go pretty much every week

but personally i wouldn't consider myself more of a supporter/fan than those who dont 

its hard work when your team is gash (as lynn have been quite a lot recently)

[IainB]

38 minutes ago, SaddlebowRoad said:

i go pretty much every week

but personally i wouldn't consider myself more of a supporter/fan than those who dont 

its hard work when your team is gash (as lynn have been quite a lot recently)

You've certainly been tested in recent years as have Brummie fans

[Pauldoveyspeedway]

14 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

With Birmingham building below the limit, no one is really on a "bargain average". If Jeppesen goes from a 4.5 to a 6, but the team would still been legal if he started on a 6, then no advantage has been gained.

For Birmingham's point of view, I hope you're right & he does average 6.

It may be difficult to attract riders to ride in uk but surly u  need to go as close  to the limit as possible....

[Bagpuss]

28 minutes ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said:

It may be difficult to attract riders to ride in uk but surly u  need to go as close  to the limit as possible....

I guess you do but I've always been of the mind that if you are going up to the limit for the sake of it and shoe horning in an unsuitable rider or submitting to somebody asking ridiculous money then it can be a fools errand. Voulas and Jeppesen potentially have serious improvement in them, to leave one of them out for someone who has a higher average but not much else going for them in comparison would be silly IMO.

Getting the right blend of riders is more important.

Edited 9 hours ago by Bagpuss

[mikebv]

1 hour ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said:

It may be difficult to attract riders to ride in uk but surly u  need to go as close  to the limit as possible....

They were closer last year to the limit simply through made up averages for their top two...

The reality was somewhat different..

This team looks stronger, and has more potential to improve...

Sixth for me, depending on whether Oxford can pull a rabbit out of the hat..

There is probably one team too many in the top league for all to be competitive given the lack of interest from those one and two tier riders who are not interested in riding over here..

And the second division fans bemoan their lack of meetings..

A shame a compromise couldn't be achieved for Birmingham to ride on Monday in the second division, especially as it wouldn't be too difficult to work around so few fixture clashes...

Or maybe Oxford just ran in the second division for a season to see how Birmingham unfolds track wise? 

Six teams would have delivered a very competitive league with decent riders on standby for injuries...

 

Edited 8 hours ago by mikebv

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, Bagpuss said:

I guess you do but I've always been of the mind that if you are going up to the limit for the sake of it and shoe horning in an unsuitable rider or submitting to somebody asking ridiculous money then it can be a fools errand. Voulas and Jeppesen potentially have serious improvement in them, to leave one of them out for someone who has a higher average but not much else going for them in comparison would be silly IMO.

Getting the right blend of riders is more important.

Agree to much fuss about Teams building to limit for the sake of it,it’s the potential that counts.

[Pauldoveyspeedway]

31 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

Agree to much fuss about Teams building to limit for the sake of it,it’s the potential that counts.

Makes sence tho to go near to limit as possible...

[DaveWayne]

18 hours ago, SaddlebowRoad said:

but also if theres a chance you are going to struggle or be cannon fodder why would you commit to going every week

doesnt make you any less of a fan if you decide against going to every meeting 

But if you don't turn up and put your money into the coffers, how do you expect them to build a team that won't be cannon fodder the following season ?

[Pauldoveyspeedway]

3 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

I guess you do but I've always been of the mind that if you are going up to the limit for the sake of it and shoe horning in an unsuitable rider or submitting to somebody asking ridiculous money then it can be a fools errand. Voulas and Jeppesen potentially have serious improvement in them, to leave one of them out for someone who has a higher average but not much else going for them in comparison would be silly IMO.

Getting the right blend of riders is more important.

Voulas couldnt have had that potential otherwise B.V would have kept him ...

[AceBelle]

5 minutes ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said:

Voulas couldnt have had that potential otherwise B.V would have kept him ...

Wouldn't say that ? just that Aces were always going to sign Zischke after is accident he was showing good potential bit of loyalty from lemmo for what he promised him really Voulas did a great job for us and I'm sure he will have good season for Birmingham 

[SaddlebowRoad]

1 hour ago, DaveWayne said:

But if you don't turn up and put your money into the coffers, how do you expect them to build a team that won't be cannon fodder the following season ?

you make a fair point

but folk shouldnt be expected to shell out 20+ quid for any old garbage

a bit chicken and egg i guess