TTT Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 With Pete Adams involved I think he could rip Leicester's 1-7 to pieces if they haven't actually signed as I think riders like Masters and Douglas would love to team up with Pete again. However if Pete doesn't get involved then it's not looking good brev. (With Pete) 1. Lindgren 8.13 2. S. Worrall 5.69 3. Masters 7.32 4. Douglas 7.30 5. Thorssell 7.33 6. Palm Toft 4.13 or Voulas 4.13 7. Edwards (RS) = 39.90 (Without Pete) I know it's awful! 1. (7.50 Assessed rider?) 2. Sedgmen 4.79 3. S. Worrall 5.69 4. Lampart 4.93 5. Thorssell 7.33 6. Kerr 4.77 7. Edwards (RS) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 9 minutes ago, ouch said: We could have kept Ben and gone top heavy. Brady Kurtz Norick Blodorn Jaimon Lidsey Ben Cook Dan Bewley 3 pointer Jake Mulford (RS) I doubt any top team would have a three pointer partnering the RS just so they could keep their top lads or worse still poach others - would they? You could have yes, but that wouldn’t be wise would it? That’s why you’ve made the change you have, it’s suits your club. As for “poach others”, your team has poached Zach Cook that Birmingham pencilled in to their team. You’ve done that out of pure self interest, because it’s a change you simply had to make. As said above, if you really wanted to be helpful, you could have not signed one of your top three and helped others below be more competitive. But you haven’t done that have you? Your club acts no differently to Ipswich or Sheffield. All three clubs have retained their top heatleaders, which is their right to do so. Perhaps you should be congratulating Ipswich for being loyal to riders of this Country? Five Brits I make that in the Ipswich team. Lovely to see. How many have Belle Vue got? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 3 minutes ago, Aries said: You could have yes, but that wouldn’t be wise would it? That’s why you’ve made the change you have, it’s suits your club. As for “poach others”, your team has poached Zach Cook that Birmingham pencilled in to their team. You’ve done that out of pure self interest, because it’s a change you simply had to make. As said above, if you really wanted to be helpful, you could have not signed one of your top three and helped others below be more competitive. But you haven’t done that have you? Your club acts no differently to Ipswich or Sheffield. All three clubs have retained their top heatleaders, which is their right to do so. Perhaps you should be congratulating Ipswich for being loyal to riders of this Country? Five Brits I make that in the Ipswich team. Lovely to see. How many have Belle Vue got? Ben Cook was in our top 3, we let him go. FFS! Birminghams sacking of Zach was an error that has seen him touting himself around other UK clubs. It’s not a done deal yet as we may visit the scrap heap and rescue Keynan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 (edited) Belle Vue have made one change, it’s an enforced change dictated by the points limit. If the limit had been raised to 41, they would have kept the exact same team and not swapped out Ben for Zach Cook. Anyway, Birmingham thread. Let’s just wait and see who they reveal before everyone feels sorry for them. Edited November 11 by Arch Stanton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 1 minute ago, Arch Stanton said: Belle Vue have made one change, it’s an enforced change dictated by the points limit. If the limit had been raised to 41, they would have kept the exact same team and not swapped out Ben for Zach Cook. As has already been said, we could have kept Ben under the current points limit. We chose not to for many reasons, some of which would be lost on a witches supporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 (edited) Not sure I get why fans feel sorry for B'ham this season? Ok, so last season they made the excuse of missing out on riders coz they didn't know if they would be running, but that cant be used for 2025.... Riders will move for the right money....who can blame them!? As a speedway fan, Just a decent race track with a competitive side(don't have to be world beaters), satisfies my value for money requirements.... Please dont sign Worrall or Sedgemen!! Ipswich look like the team to beat....but I don't rate their track! Edited November 11 by GiveusaB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 18 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: Not sure I get why fans feel sorry for B'ham this season? Ok, so last season they made the excuse of missing out on riders coz they didn't know if they would be running, but that cant be used for 2025.... Riders will move for the right money....who can blame them!? As a speedway fan, Just a decent race track with a competitive side(don't have to be world beaters), satisfies my value for money requirements.... Please dont sign Worrall or Sedgemen!! Ipswich look like the team to beat....but I don't rate their track! You don't get any points for track ratings...😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 10 Brits rode and were on the books for Belle Vue this past season and I’m optimistic of a similar number this coming season. It included the British Champion at senior level, U21 (both same as 2022) and the Youth champion. We would have added the U19 champion but for an unfortunate accident. Tbf 5 is a good number so well done but 12 would be better. Mentioning the Colts brings me to the nonsense about Belle Vue only do things that suit themselves. Anybody that thinks running the Colts is a benefit needs to give their head a wobble as we lose money every year, money that could be used to poach a rider off a failing rival due to offering better terms.There’s an overall benefit to UK speedway and it’s something we willing do for the greater good. A difficult concept for most of our “win at all cost” opponents who can just jump back to the second division if the going gets rough saying “I’m alright Jack, sod you”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidvej Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 5 hours ago, ouch said: I thought Tom was good for the Brummies last season and our ex juniors Steve & Leon put some points on the board. Shame they had to seek out foreign imports that didn’t work out due to the lack of available riders from other clubs. 😡 We’re releasing a 7 point heat leader this time if that helps. This would have been a good team for you, if it fits and folk didn’t gazebo you again Zagar Antti Brennan Worrall (either) B Cook Flint Pearson Up the Aces! Zagar has retired, only did a handful of meetings last year. I guess he could be tempted back for a good pay day, but father time has caught up with Matej, like it does with all riders eventually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 (edited) Have I missed something re Pete Adams? or was it more putting two and two togther due to Chris being the TM?? Adams did state quite clearly on the Humans of Speedway podcast he'd only ever be involved at Wolves - mind you that was 2years ago so maybe he has had a change of heart as it seems Wolves wont be back anytime soon sadly. Edited November 11 by GeneralMelchett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 3 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Belle Vue have made one change, it’s an enforced change dictated by the points limit. If the limit had been raised to 41, they would have kept the exact same team and not swapped out Ben for Zach Cook. Anyway, Birmingham thread. Let’s just wait and see who they reveal before everyone feels sorry for them. 2 changes Zischke for voulas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 1 hour ago, Spidvej said: Zagar has retired, only did a handful of meetings last year. I guess he could be tempted back for a good pay day, but father time has caught up with Matej, like it does with all riders eventually. He's not retired, Just nobody wants to overpay for him. I read a Polish article recently that Matej is lowering his demands to try and get a place in the Ekstraliga 2 League. Willing to wave his signing on fee and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, ouch said: Mentioning the Colts brings me to the nonsense about Belle Vue only do things that suit themselves. Anybody that thinks running the Colts is a benefit needs to give their head a wobble as we lose money every year, money that could be used to poach a rider off a failing rival due to offering better terms.There’s an overall benefit to UK speedway and it’s something we willing do for the greater good. A difficult concept for most of our “win at all cost” opponents who can just jump back to the second division if the going gets rough saying “I’m alright Jack, sod you”. I wonder which club you are referring to? ☠️ 😁 Edited November 11 by Gambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 1 hour ago, TTT said: He's not retired, Just nobody wants to overpay for him. I read a Polish article recently that Matej is lowering his demands to try and get a place in the Ekstraliga 2 League. Willing to wave his signing on fee and stuff. Zagar would be a great signing at Belle Vue, but I wouldn't take him at any other Premiership club, especially if he's as expensive as rumoured. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 15 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Zagar would be a great signing at Belle Vue, but I wouldn't take him at any other Premiership club, especially if he's as expensive as rumoured. Zagar past his best and usually expensive... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 6 hours ago, TTT said: With Pete Adams involved I think he could rip Leicester's 1-7 to pieces if they haven't actually signed as I think riders like Masters and Douglas would love to team up with Pete again. However if Pete doesn't get involved then it's not looking good brev. (With Pete) 1. Lindgren 8.13 2. S. Worrall 5.69 3. Masters 7.32 4. Douglas 7.30 5. Thorssell 7.33 6. Palm Toft 4.13 or Voulas 4.13 7. Edwards (RS) = 39.90 (Without Pete) I know it's awful! 1. (7.50 Assessed rider?) 2. Sedgmen 4.79 3. S. Worrall 5.69 4. Lampart 4.93 5. Thorssell 7.33 6. Kerr 4.77 7. Edwards (RS) Will be surprised if F.L comes to uk next year ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 5 hours ago, BluPanther said: You don't get any points for track ratings...😉 No, but the entertainment is usually better and that's more important at my age !☺️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 6 hours ago, Aries said: You could have yes, but that wouldn’t be wise would it? That’s why you’ve made the change you have, it’s suits your club. As for “poach others”, your team has poached Zach Cook that Birmingham pencilled in to their team. You’ve done that out of pure self interest, because it’s a change you simply had to make. As said above, if you really wanted to be helpful, you could have not signed one of your top three and helped others below be more competitive. But you haven’t done that have you? Your club acts no differently to Ipswich or Sheffield. All three clubs have retained their top heatleaders, which is their right to do so. Perhaps you should be congratulating Ipswich for being loyal to riders of this Country? Five Brits I make that in the Ipswich team. Lovely to see. How many have Belle Vue got? and what nationality are there biggest points and money earners ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 17 minutes ago, AceBelle said: and what nationality are there biggest points and money earners ??? I never said all seven were Brits did I Geoffrey. A shock to absolutely nobody that you can’t read because you’re as thick as mince. To help you a little, I’ll repeat what I said. FIVE Brits in the Ipswich septet, is damn good going and lovely to see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 There is one world class rider available. He has no GP commitments and has a pretty empty calendar. Birmingham should do everything they can to tempt him back to the UK. The last time he rode in the Premiership, he scored a 15 point maximum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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