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17 minutes ago, FromBendThree said:

He left weeks ago.

I have to agree with you on that, i don't think Tom joining Ipswich was ever the problem with them naming their 7, issues elsewhere, but Birmingham have really got to pull a couple of rabbits out of the hat now to get the crowds in Perry Bar.

And as TTT says, if Pete Adams gets involved, i expect a few surprises in that line up??

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23 minutes ago, siggysigalos said:

I have to agree with you on that, i don't think Tom joining Ipswich was ever the problem with them naming their 7, issues elsewhere, but Birmingham have really got to pull a couple of rabbits out of the hat now to get the crowds in Perry Bar.

And as TTT says, if Pete Adams gets involved, i expect a few surprises in that line up??

Your premise is spot on, but the problem is, even if Peter Adams gets involved, would Nigel Tolley have the finances to sign a team of riders that would like to ride for Peter ? 
 

 

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Tbh if the other clubs are doing nothing to help Birmingham & even raiding their top riders, I wonder should Birmingham pull out of the league? Hope Tolley doesn't let his heart rule his head & go bankrupt.

While it's not the job of others clubs to keep Birmingham competitive, surely they know there's a very good chance it'll soon be a 6 team Premiership, is that what they want?

Re Brennan if a club doesn't want to use their own asset isn't his current team supposed to have "first refusal" on him?

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2 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Tbh if the other clubs are doing nothing to help Birmingham & even raiding their top riders, I wonder should Birmingham pull out of the league? Hope Tolley doesn't let his heart rule his head & go bankrupt.

While it's not the job of others clubs to keep Birmingham competitive, surely they know there's a very good chance it'll soon be a 6 team Premiership, is that what they want?

Re Brennan if a club doesn't want to use their own asset isn't his current team supposed to have "first refusal" on him?

No.  How can that be forced with 1 year contracts. 

 

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11 minutes ago, SUPERACE said:

No.  How can that be forced with 1 year contracts. 

I don't think it can be, even owning a riders contact couldn't be enforced if it went to a court hearing etc. but have previously heard clubs getting warnings for "tapping up" riders, so assume there's some "rule" in place?

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6 hours ago, PhilTheAce said:

Brennan left brum.

Disappointed - I thought/read there was a “verbal agreement” in place to return. Did he really think he’d be left without a team spot elsewhere (that would NEVER have happened) if Birmingham decided not to continue?

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8 hours ago, PhilTheAce said:

If I was brum I’d be all out after Thorsell and lahti who I think could be getable 

No disrespect to either, but ..

If those two are One and Five then they may as well shut...

Edit. Or some way of allowing them  to run in Div 2 on Mondays is found..

No point in Birmingham limping along just making up the numbers, and, if the plan is to move somewhere else, then far better to be seen as successful in Div 2 than out of their depth in Div 1..

Neither title means much outside the few who follow the sport anyway, so either league will get similarly noticed, so locally, winning most weeks could help attendances...

 

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10 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Tbh if the other clubs are doing nothing to help Birmingham & even raiding their top riders, I wonder should Birmingham pull out of the league? Hope Tolley doesn't let his heart rule his head & go bankrupt.

While it's not the job of others clubs to keep Birmingham competitive, surely they know there's a very good chance it'll soon be a 6 team Premiership, is that what they want?

Re Brennan if a club doesn't want to use their own asset isn't his current team supposed to have "first refusal" on him?

I thought Tom was good for the Brummies last season and our ex juniors Steve & Leon put some points on the board. Shame they had to seek out foreign imports that didn’t work out due to the lack of available riders from other clubs. 😡 We’re releasing a 7 point heat leader this time if that helps. 
 

This would have been a good team for you, if it fits and folk didn’t gazebo you again  

Zagar

Antti

Brennan

Worrall (either)

B Cook

Flint

Pearson

Up the Aces!

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31 minutes ago, ouch said:

I thought Tom was good for the Brummies last season and our ex juniors Steve & Leon put some points on the board. Shame they had to seek out foreign imports that didn’t work out due to the lack of available riders from other clubs. 😡 We’re releasing a 7 point heat leader this time if that helps. 
 

This would have been a good team for you, if it fits and folk didn’t gazebo you again  

Zagar

Antti

Brennan

Worrall (either)

B Cook

Flint

Pearson

Up the Aces!

You HAD to ffs you’re over the limit!! Actually I think your club is bang out of order. You have two number 1’s in your team, you should be more considerate to those lower down the food chain and released one of them. Very unsporting from the club who are the pillars of the Speedway community. 

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2 minutes ago, Steve Irving said:

You HAD to ffs you’re over the limit!! Actually I think your club is bang out of order. You have two number 1’s in your team, you should be more considerate to those lower down the food chain and released one of them. Very unsporting from the club who are the pillars of the Speedway community. 

There’s no way he really believes the drivel he comes out with so he’s blatantly fishing for bites. Stop jumping straight in to his net 😉 
 

Everyone is fully aware Belle Vue do what’s best for Belle Vue, just like every other club. 

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5 hours ago, mikebv said:

No disrespect to either, but ..

If those two are One and Five then they may as well shut...

Edit. Or some way of allowing them  to run in Div 2 on Mondays is found..

No point in Birmingham limping along just making up the numbers, and, if the plan is to move somewhere else, then far better to be seen as successful in Div 2 than out of their depth in Div 1..

Neither title means much outside the few who follow the sport anyway, so either league will get similarly noticed, so locally, winning most weeks could help attendances...

If there's only enough riders (willing to race in GB) to fill SIX teams at a 40 point limit, then how can that be the points limit for a SEVEN team league?

I guess if the other 6 teams vote for a 40 point limit not much Brummies can do about it.

If there was a 39 point limit, freeing up riders for Birmingham, they league would have the same riders in it, they'd just be spread out more evenly rather than some clubs having more heat leaders than others.

At the end of the day, you'd still get some strong looking teams with a 39 limit, someone still has to win the league, this doesn't make it harder for anyone, just more equal for everyone.

Very disappointed with every Prem club for only looking out for themselves, which is their right (for short term gain) but may be regretted in the future when they have less opponents to race.

I also believe Birmingham should have been allowed to compete in the Champ on a Monday. With so few fixtures, just avoid signing Belle Vue riders & arrange fixtures to avoid needing guests depending on the Monday Premiership fixtures.

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1 hour ago, Aries said:

There’s no way he really believes the drivel he comes out with so he’s blatantly fishing for bites. Stop jumping straight in to his net 😉 
 

Everyone is fully aware Belle Vue do what’s best for Belle Vue, just like every other club. 

We could have kept Ben and gone top heavy. 

Brady Kurtz 

Norick Blodorn 

Jaimon Lidsey 

Ben Cook 

Dan Bewley 

3 pointer

Jake Mulford (RS) 

I doubt any top team would have a three pointer partnering the RS just so they could keep their top lads or worse still poach others - would they?

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