SaddlebowRoad Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 brennan? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler42 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 48 minutes ago, SaddlebowRoad said: brennan? Yes I forgot about Tom, but other than Thompson, anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 12 minutes ago, tyler42 said: Yes I forgot about Tom, but other than Thompson, anyone else? Brennan Thompson Jenkins (back as RS now) Rowe Hume (out of RS but still a reserve) But apart from them, it’s not worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, tyler42 said: I have to admit, looking at the riders who are not RS's at the moment. There is not many riders from the lower league who would be any better than Sam Hagon. Young Luke Harrison and Nathan Abelitt are the only two who imo would be better, but the RS system has not worked. Only Dan Thompson has got out of the reserve berth and progressed. Flint is coming up for his 5th season as a RS. Edwards 4th season, Jenkins the same!! To be fair to them, they have come through when the top league improved it's levels several fold .. Eg. Chris Harris is a reserve which shows how "deep" into the team "good riders" now go.. Chris will inevitably come out of reserve quickly but another "good rider" will replace him.. The 2nd and 3rd tiers are the places for these lads to develop.. Far away from Messrs. Bewley, Emil, Doyle, Kurtz, Fricke, "The Holders", Woffy, Janowski, Musielak etc.. Edited January 2 by mikebv 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 (edited) 4 hours ago, tyler42 said: I have to admit, looking at the riders who are not RS's at the moment. There is not many riders from the lower league who would be any better than Sam Hagon. Young Luke Harrison and Nathan Abelitt are the only two who imo would be better, but the RS system has not worked. Only Dan Thompson has got out of the reserve berth and progressed. Flint is coming up for his 5th season as a RS. Edwards 4th season, Jenkins the same!! Depends on the reasoning for the RS, to decide it "hasn't worked". The system has given many young / inexperienced Brits opportunities in the top flight, this alone should save money on flights if foreign riders were used at reserve instead. Also just because a rider hasn't moved out of the RS system, doesn't mean he hasn't improved as a rider. Look at the Championship averages of Jenkins & Edwards, they keep improving - has racing in the Prem helped cause that? Look at Kemp & Mountain, riders who got dropped not because of poor form but to try & improve the team, this would happen far more without the RS scheme. Maybe that's the only negative I can come up with, as riders like Kemp & Mountain are considered "number 7 quality" so miss out on Premiership team spots. Even when Dan T got dropped, without the RS scheme, he may not have got picked up by Ipswich, would he have improved so quickly without gaining another spot? I know some people will say "if you're good enough you'll get a chance anyway" but look at Dan T in the Champ in 2023. No club wanted him at the start of the season, Birmingham signed then dropped him, till he finally got a spot with Plymouth. This is the sort of thing that could easily happen more often in the Prem without the RS scheme. Every year there will be riders at the bottom of a teams average (below 4) no matter what system is used, I just think it's better to have Brits in these positions. I had a quick look at the last season before "rising stars" 2019 to see who ended up at number 7. One promising Aussie (Ryan Douglas), two young Brits (Perks & Sarjeant), three riders who didn't average over the minimum 4.00 (Porsing, Wells, Ostergaard) and one who never returned to ride over here (Berge) so if we got rid of the RS system and ended up back as it was then, is that any better? Ps sorry for the rambling, I find it hard to condense my thoughts down lol! Edited January 2 by szkocjasid 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 For a Leicester point of view, based on his Championship average I'd have looked towards Joe T again. Maybe he'll get another chance of Hagon doesn't improve? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Roads Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Happy new year all. Predictions for 2025…… Hopeful for play offs then anyones over 2 legs. Feel a big season for the reserves, poor start feel will be changes by June. Any upgrades happening at the stadium over this winter. Hopefully lighting can’t see great when dark nights god knows how the riders cope..;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted Sunday at 11:02 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 11:02 AM Max Fricke fell and was withdrawn from the second round of the Aussie Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Lion Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago (edited) On 1/3/2025 at 5:19 PM, Cross Roads said: Happy new year all. Predictions for 2025…… Hopeful for play offs then anyones over 2 legs. Feel a big season for the reserves, poor start feel will be changes by June. Any upgrades happening at the stadium over this winter. Hopefully lighting can’t see great when dark nights god knows how the riders cope..;) There are track working gangs starting this week with a large number of tasks needing to be done for the 2025 season, I am sure your help would be appreciated. One thing you can be assured won’t be replaced is the track lighting , that is because the whole stadium had brand new floodlights installed for the start of last season so they are only 12 months old. There has never been any complaints from riders about visibility due to the lack of light . Edited 14 hours ago by Lenny Lion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 2 hours ago, Lenny Lion said: There are track working gangs starting this week with a large number of tasks needing to be done for the 2025 season, I am sure your help would be appreciated. One thing you can be assured won’t be replaced is the track lighting , that is because the whole stadium had brand new floodlights installed for the start of last season so they are only 12 months old. There has never been any complaints from riders about visibility due to the lack of light . Thanks for the update Lenny. With regard to track work, does that include any alterations (i.e. shape, alterations etc) or just pre-season preparation work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 3 hours ago, Lenny Lion said: There has never been any complaints from riders about visibility due to the lack of light . Well, as long as the riders are happy, bugger the fans that pay to watch and can't really see what's happening at the other end of the track! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, IainB said: Well, as long as the riders are happy, bugger the fans that pay to watch and can't really see what's happening at the other end of the track! The management have looked into this matter and as of next season, free carrots are to be handed out to all spectators. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 33 minutes ago, Teromaafan said: The management have looked into this matter and as of next season, free carrots are to be handed out to all spectators. ... at the Specsavers Arena 🥸 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Roads Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 6 hours ago, Lenny Lion said: There are track working gangs starting this week with a large number of tasks needing to be done for the 2025 season, I am sure your help would be appreciated. One thing you can be assured won’t be replaced is the track lighting , that is because the whole stadium had brand new floodlights installed for the start of last season so they are only 12 months old. There has never been any complaints from riders about visibility due to the lack of light . Feel the reply was bit of a dig... There was never any hidden agenda with the question. Happy to help, Fair enough with the lighting if it is believed that the lighting is to a standard for spectator sport / motor sport then some people clearly have different levels of expectations to me. I work within construction industry and any sites i attend are better lit along with the quality of the toilets come to think of it..:)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveWayne Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Cross Roads said: Feel the reply was bit of a dig... There was never any hidden agenda with the question. Happy to help, Fair enough with the lighting if it is believed that the lighting is to a standard for spectator sport / motor sport then some people clearly have different levels of expectations to me. I work within construction industry and any sites i attend are better lit along with the quality of the toilets come to think of it..:)... I have been spectating at ovals all my life, 4 wheels more than 2, and have seen some terrible lighting over the years. However, having been fortunate enough to spend a few years on the dangerous side of the fence, I can assure you that the riders won't be having the same issues as spectators as the visibility is far better on track than looking in from the outside. Worst track I raced at was Crewe which literally had light and dark patches on the straights and very little (if any) lighting on the bends. Edited 7 hours ago by DaveWayne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago They had a blank canvas with the track... buggered it up Now they've replaced the floodlights with lights that clearly aren't bright enough (or they are bright enough, just not enough of them in the right places). Admittedly they're so much better than the days of standard light bulbs, but in 2024 they should have been so much better than they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, DaveWayne said: I have been spectating at ovals all my life, 4 wheels more than 2, and have seen some terrible lighting over the years. However, having been fortunate enough to spend a few years on the dangerous side of the fence, I can assure you that the riders won't be having the same issues as spectators as the visibility is far better on track than looking in from the outside. Worst track I raced at was Crewe which literally had light and dark patches on the straights and very little (if any) lighting on the bends. I only went to Crewe twice. One was an afternoon meeting featuring a National Hot Rods NHRPA Championship round which saw some fairly expensive Hot Rods shaken to pieces on the rough track. The drivers were very unimpressed! The second time was for an evening meeting featuring F1 Stock Cars and I commentated on the consolation. I totally agree about the dark patches around the track. Even the best light places appeared to only have a 60 watt bulb. It was impossible to read the numbers on the cars on the back straight or bends but fortunately in those days I knew the shape of most of the cars. About 30 years ago the track lighting at Skegness had to be changed due to the local council suddenly saying they were too bright in the surrounding area. A firm who did lighting for motorways and major outdoor events put up the new lighting system and they were nearly as bad as the lights at Crewe and they had to double the number of lights before the next meeting which even then were no where near as good as the old lights had been but at least the local council were satisfied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 5 hours ago, Cross Roads said: Feel the reply was bit of a dig... There was never any hidden agenda with the question. Happy to help, Fair enough with the lighting if it is believed that the lighting is to a standard for spectator sport / motor sport then some people clearly have different levels of expectations to me. I work within construction industry and any sites i attend are better lit along with the quality of the toilets come to think of it..:)... Having attended the play off final, I did notice that there were some clear 'darker spots' on the track between the lighting... Nothing dramatic, but clearly not all "evenly well lit" around the bends on 3 and 4.. (We were stood on bend one) . Although,to be fair, it might have been simply that the Leicester lads were so far behind it just looked like they "disappeared from view"...😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 54 minutes ago, mikebv said: I did notice that there were some clear 'darker spots' on the track between the ... It could explain why the ref had such a shocker in the semi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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