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2 hours ago, tyler42 said:

I have to admit, looking at the riders who are not RS's at the moment. There is not many riders from the lower league who would be any better than Sam Hagon. Young Luke Harrison and Nathan Abelitt are the only two who imo would be better, but the RS system has not worked. Only Dan Thompson has got out of the reserve berth and progressed. Flint is coming up for his 5th season as a RS. Edwards 4th season, Jenkins the same!! 

 

To be fair to them, they have come through when the top league improved it's levels several fold ..

Eg. Chris Harris is a reserve which shows how "deep" into the team "good riders" now go..

Chris will inevitably come out of reserve quickly but another "good rider" will replace him..

The 2nd and 3rd tiers are the places for these lads to develop..

Far away from Messrs. Bewley, Emil, Doyle, Kurtz, Fricke, "The Holders", Woffy, Janowski, Musielak etc..

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4 hours ago, tyler42 said:

I have to admit, looking at the riders who are not RS's at the moment. There is not many riders from the lower league who would be any better than Sam Hagon. Young Luke Harrison and Nathan Abelitt are the only two who imo would be better, but the RS system has not worked. Only Dan Thompson has got out of the reserve berth and progressed. Flint is coming up for his 5th season as a RS. Edwards 4th season, Jenkins the same!! 

Depends on the reasoning for the RS, to decide it "hasn't worked".

The system has given many young / inexperienced Brits opportunities in the top flight, this alone should save money on flights if foreign riders were used at reserve instead.

Also just because a rider hasn't moved out of the RS system, doesn't mean he hasn't improved as a rider. Look at the Championship averages of Jenkins & Edwards, they keep improving - has racing in the Prem helped cause that?

Look at Kemp & Mountain, riders who got dropped not because of poor form but to try & improve the team, this would happen far more without the RS scheme. Maybe that's the only negative I can come up with, as riders like Kemp & Mountain are considered "number 7 quality" so miss out on Premiership team spots.

Even when Dan T got dropped, without the RS scheme, he may not have got picked up by Ipswich, would he have improved so quickly without gaining another spot?

I know some people will say "if you're good enough you'll get a chance anyway" but look at Dan T in the Champ in 2023. No club wanted him at the start of the season, Birmingham signed then dropped him, till he finally got a spot with Plymouth.

This is the sort of thing that could easily happen more often in the Prem without the RS scheme.

Every year there will be riders at the bottom of a teams average (below 4) no matter what system is used, I just think it's better to have Brits in these positions.

I had a quick look at the last season before "rising stars" 2019 to see who ended up at number 7. One promising Aussie (Ryan Douglas), two young Brits (Perks & Sarjeant), three riders who didn't average over the minimum 4.00 (Porsing, Wells, Ostergaard) and one who never returned to ride over here (Berge) so if we got rid of the RS system and ended up back as it was then, is that any better?

Ps sorry for the rambling, I find it hard to condense my thoughts down lol!

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Happy new year all. Predictions for 2025…… Hopeful for play offs then anyones over 2 legs. Feel a big season for the reserves, poor start feel will be changes by June.
 

Any upgrades happening at the stadium over this winter. Hopefully lighting can’t see great when dark nights god knows how the riders cope..;)

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