TTT Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 28 minutes ago, ouch said: It’s the same team that won the league but with Zach (5.57) instead of Ben 6.99 due to rules. Will a 1.42 drop make a huge difference to our ability to qualify? Zach finished strongly against some tough teams whilst in the main body of the side. In his last 3+3 meetings he averaged 6.40. Carry on like that and it limits the damage to our title winning team. BV will make the play-offs for sure, Always will due to the NSS form. Zach for Ben is a big drop off imo, Zach's a good rider but Ben's home form was mustard (Had more 1st places then 2nd, 3rd and 4th's) Big shoes to fill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 2 hours ago, Steve Irving said: Unless you’re Connor Mountain of course. A young British rider trying to make a living here. Then you get tossed on to the scrap heap in a purely tactical move. Out of around 10 teams that have put or left Connor on the scrap heap over the last few seasons, just one is continually being vilified for it. The fact it’s the only team to have offered him any top flight meetings (just a few less than previous seasons) since 2022 is BSF trolling at its finest. 2019 Left on the scrap heap 2021 Kings Lynn 16 then dropped 2022 Sheffield 18 then dropped 2023 Left on the scrap heap 2024 Belle Vue 13 then dropped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 31 minutes ago, TTT said: BV will make the play-offs for sure, Always will due to the NSS form. Zach for Ben is a big drop off imo, Zach's a good rider but Ben's home form was mustard (Had more 1st places then 2nd, 3rd and 4th's) Big shoes to fill. You made a good point there about Ben at the NSS. The general opinion on here is that we easily beat opponents around there due to many factors so sacrificing a few points means we still win but don’t hammer teams. Zach’s away average was actually higher than Bens so hopefully that will help turn some of those close losses into wins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 Zach is better at Foxhall than Ben. And easily so. Zach’s worst Foxhall performance ironically was when he guested FOR Ipswich. As an away rider, been generally good. So if the two meet in the play offs, Belle Vue will be stronger at Foxhall next year. Think Zach will soon get dialled in at the NSS too. Most do when they have that as their home track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 38 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Zach is better at Foxhall than Ben. And easily so. Zach’s worst Foxhall performance ironically was when he guested FOR Ipswich. As an away rider, been generally good. So if the two meet in the play offs, Belle Vue will be stronger at Foxhall next year. Think Zach will soon get dialled in at the NSS too. Most do when they have that as their home track. Be great to get an Aces v Witches final. When you remember the titanic semi final of ‘23 with THAT heat 15. Terrific stuff, it would be get to see those four riders going for it again in a final. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 11 minutes ago, ouch said: Be great to get an Aces v Witches final. When you remember the titanic semi final of ‘23 with THAT heat 15. Terrific stuff, it would be get to see those four riders going for it again in a final. 💯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 (edited) BTW. I don’t know if it’s vuolas or Tate. Either or will do. Prefer Tate though Edited November 4 by PhilTheAce 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 We had to lose points from our averages so always have to have a weaker team. But I think we will be better away anyway next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 Z Cook & Voulas are less risky signings than Zischke, following his injury. Makes sense Z Cook had a year at Monmore didn't he? So he'll be more acclimatized to tighter tracks. Did OK in a struggling Brummies team. Voulas deserved to keep his spot. If any team was interested in taking Blodorn on loan for a year were I Lemon I think I'd have released him this year to gain more experience. While he's good to watch, still only 20 and has improved every year he is going to plateau at some point. I'd have taken a punt on Milik on a what 4.1 average. He rode most of his British League fixtures this year at #1 before having a few at reserve and then being dropped. I keep expecting Bewley to be the dominant force in our league averaging 10:50+ but maybe it'll never happen or maybe this will be the year it does. Kurtz had a stellar 2024, can't ask any more of him than his 9.15 average. Lindsey's low average surprised me, but his form away from NSS is generally poor, that needs to improve. Being a relatively experienced Ekstraliga rider if he didn't ride for the Aces I don't think he'd bother with our league. Mulford must feel under pressure with Cairns waiting in the wings when he's 16 & Bailey potentially returning. Hopefully that will be the making of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 On 11/2/2024 at 6:24 AM, PhilTheAce said: Kurtz blodorn lidsey z cook bewley vuolas mulford I thought Zischke was a certainty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 On 11/2/2024 at 12:00 PM, TTT said: BV will make the play-offs for sure, Always will due to the NSS form. Zach for Ben is a big drop off imo, Zach's a good rider but Ben's home form was mustard (Had more 1st places then 2nd, 3rd and 4th's) Big shoes to fill. Surely at 5ft nothing they can't be that big...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 On 11/2/2024 at 11:23 AM, ouch said: It’s the same team that won the league but with Zach (5.57) instead of Ben 6.99 due to rules. Will a 1.42 drop make a huge difference to our ability to qualify? Zach finished strongly against some tough teams whilst in the main body of the side. In his last 3+3 meetings he averaged 6.40. Carry on like that and it limits the damage to our title winning team. Zach is better than Ben round Foxhall too so could be of benefit in any two legged ties against ipswich - dunno if the same goes for some of the other smaller tracks too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman1 Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 Who knows until season starts ,every year different form from reserves through to heat leaders,speedway unpredictable unless they’re gp standard with plenty of cash for new bits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted November 7 Report Share Posted November 7 How sure is everyone on a Blodorn return? I can easily see him going to Birmingham in a straight swap for Z. Cook. 1. Kurtz 2. Z. Cook 3. Lidsey 4. Rew 5. Bewley 6. Zischke / Voulas 7. Mulford (RS) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted November 7 Report Share Posted November 7 49 minutes ago, TTT said: How sure is everyone on a Blodorn return? I can easily see him going to Birmingham in a straight swap for Z. Cook. 1. Kurtz 2. Z. Cook 3. Lidsey 4. Rew 5. Bewley 6. Zischke / Voulas 7. Mulford (RS) nah blodern is well liked at NSS and rides it better then Cook 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcone44 Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 Kurtz also going to be riding for Wroclaw next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 15 minutes ago, gjcone44 said: Kurtz also going to be riding for Wroclaw next season been roumered for months !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 (edited) Aces Xmas Cracker Announced today for friday 29th nov to announce the team we might already know the proposed line up before then ??? Edited November 9 by AceBelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BenMoran Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 2025 Aces will be same that ended the 2024 season, well the surnames will anyway, Zach for Ben the only change for Belle Vue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 49 minutes ago, 4BenMoran said: 2025 Aces will be same that ended the 2024 season, well the surnames will anyway, Zach for Ben the only change for Belle Vue. it won't zischike in for voulas !! it could be rew yet for ben cook nothing certain yet !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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