Belle Vue Aces 2025

[RoundTheBoards]

32 minutes ago, M.D said:

Or he spends a lot more on his Polish set up and once the season in Poland finished, he moved it over to the UK.

Quite the opposite.   Had been using new kit in UK most of the year, and couldn't get a satisfactory set-up.  Went back to last year's kit towards the end of the season and immediately started going better.

[gjcone44]

I enjoyed cook at belle vue this season, but would still prefer lidsey, i know cook can be fast round belle vue, but i have not seen him get too close to the fence like Bewley Kurtz or lidsey do.

[Col]

So... Kurtz, Zischke, Lidsey  Blodorn, Bewley, Vuolas, Mulford?

[RoundTheBoards]

1 hour ago, Col said:

So... Kurtz, Zischke, Lidsey  Blodorn, Bewley, Vuolas, Mulford?

You got 6 right

[PhilTheAce]

6 hours ago, Col said:

So... Kurtz, Zischke, Lidsey  Blodorn, Bewley, Vuolas, Mulford?

Kurtz

blodorn

lidsey 

z cook

bewley

vuolas

mulford 

[Aries]

1 hour ago, PhilTheAce said:

Kurtz

blodorn

lidsey 

z cook

bewley

vuolas

mulford 

Must have been a tough decision to choose one of either Vuolas and Tate. I guess the horrible injury would have been a deciding factor? Bit more risky until he proves his fitness maybe. 

[StarBoy]

2 hours ago, PhilTheAce said:

Kurtz

blodorn

lidsey 

z cook

bewley

vuolas

mulford 

Z Cook in the top 5 is a big decline from B Cook. I also can’t ever see him dropping down to reserve as Voulas’ average won’t increase that much. 

[Spiderman1]

9 minutes ago, StarBoy said:

Z Cook in the top 5 is a big decline from B Cook. I also can’t ever see him dropping down to reserve as Voulas’ average won’t increase that much. 

Voulas gone before first av come out,lemon sour with the cook

[ouch]

52 minutes ago, StarBoy said:

Z Cook in the top 5 is a big decline from B Cook. I also can’t ever see him dropping down to reserve as Voulas’ average won’t increase that much. 

That’s rider control/averages for you. The strong teams help the weak teams (well some anyway). I’m happy with that if it stems the decline of UK league speedway. I would have rather kept all of this years squad especially after helping Ben but a point on his average and being out biggest improver but it is what it is. 

[ouch]

45 minutes ago, Spiderman1 said:

Voulas gone before first av come out,lemon sour with the cook

That would be a departure from the norm for The Aces as we stay loyal, more than any other team since covid and probably before that. 

[Steve Irving]

8 minutes ago, ouch said:

That’s rider control/averages for you. The strong teams help the weak teams (well some anyway). I’m happy with that if it stems the decline of UK league speedway. I would have rather kept all of this years squad especially after helping Ben but a point on his average and being out biggest improver but it is what it is. 

LOL give over with this vomit inducing “we like to help others” cr@p. You’re not “releasing” Ben Cook to help others you fool, you’re releasing him because you’d rather keep the others. “The strong teams help the weak teams” LOL you’ve just pinched Zach Cook off Birmingham who had pencilled him in to their side, in exactly the same way Ipswich have with Brennan! Purely for your own clubs gain because you have to shed points. Stop pretending your club is holier than thou and you make sacrifices for the benefit of others and British Speedway. Your club does things out of self interest, every bit as much as everyone else. 

6 minutes ago, ouch said:

That would be a departure from the norm for The Aces as we stay loyal, more than any other team since covid and probably before that. 

Unless you’re Connor Mountain of course. A young British rider trying to make a living here. Then you get tossed on to the scrap heap in a purely tactical move. 

[Fromafar]

4 minutes ago, Steve Irving said:

LOL give over with this vomit inducing “we like to help others” cr@p. You’re not “releasing” Ben Cook to help others you fool, you’re releasing him because you’d rather keep the others. “The strong teams help the weak teams” LOL you’ve just pinched Zach Cook off Birmingham who had pencilled him in to their side, in exactly the same way Ipswich have with Brennan! Purely for your own clubs gain because you have to shed points. Stop pretending your club is holier than thou and you make sacrifices for the benefit of others and British Speedway. Your club does things out of self interest, every bit as much as everyone else. 

Unless you’re Connor Mountain of course. A young British rider trying to make a living here. Then you get tossed on to the scrap heap in a purely tactical move. 

Birmingham weren’t exactly loyal to Zac Cook,really can’t blame if he leaves.

[Arch Stanton]

To be fair, we at Ipswich also like to help the weaker clubs where we can. We’re releasing Adam Ellis so he’s an option for the clubs lower down. We’re good like that

😉

[SUPERACE]

1 hour ago, StarBoy said:

Z Cook in the top 5 is a big decline from B Cook. I also can’t ever see him dropping down to reserve as Voulas’ average won’t increase that much. 

That's speedway, we have to reduce Averages so it's stating the obvious.

[SUPERACE]

44 minutes ago, Steve Irving said:

LOL give over with this vomit inducing “we like to help others” cr@p. You’re not “releasing” Ben Cook to help others you fool, you’re releasing him because you’d rather keep the others. “The strong teams help the weak teams” LOL you’ve just pinched Zach Cook off Birmingham who had pencilled him in to their side, in exactly the same way Ipswich have with Brennan! Purely for your own clubs gain because you have to shed points. Stop pretending your club is holier than thou and you make sacrifices for the benefit of others and British Speedway. Your club does things out of self interest, every bit as much as everyone else. 

Unless you’re Connor Mountain of course. A young British rider trying to make a living here. Then you get tossed on to the scrap heap in a purely tactical move. 

Connor was given time and he wasnt  performing unfortunately. He wasn't tossed out in the first set of averages hope that helps. 

[AceBelle]

48 minutes ago, Steve Irving said:

LOL give over with this vomit inducing “we like to help others” cr@p. You’re not “releasing” Ben Cook to help others you fool, you’re releasing him because you’d rather keep the others. “The strong teams help the weak teams” LOL you’ve just pinched Zach Cook off Birmingham who had pencilled him in to their side, in exactly the same way Ipswich have with Brennan! Purely for your own clubs gain because you have to shed points. Stop pretending your club is holier than thou and you make sacrifices for the benefit of others and British Speedway. Your club does things out of self interest, every bit as much as everyone else. 

Unless you’re Connor Mountain of course. A young British rider trying to make a living here. Then you get tossed on to the scrap heap in a purely tactical move. 

Young 🤣 he's 27 🤣

[TTT]

2 hours ago, StarBoy said:

Z Cook in the top 5 is a big decline from B Cook. I also can’t ever see him dropping down to reserve as Voulas’ average won’t increase that much. 

I agree, I don't rate that 1-7 at all tbh, Great top two but it's an awfully long tail especially away from the NSS.

[ouch]

31 minutes ago, Steve Irving said:

LOL give over with this vomit inducing “we like to help others” cr@p. You’re not “releasing” Ben Cook to help others you fool, you’re releasing him because you’d rather keep the others. “The strong teams help the weak teams” LOL you’ve just pinched Zach Cook off Birmingham who had pencilled him in to their side, in exactly the same way Ipswich have with Brennan! Purely for your own clubs gain because you have to shed points. Stop pretending your club is holier than thou and you make sacrifices for the benefit of others and British Speedway. Your club does things out of self interest, every bit as much as everyone else. 

Unless you’re Connor Mountain of course. A young British rider trying to make a living here. Then you get tossed on to the scrap heap in a purely tactical move. 

If we keep Ben we release, say Jaimon to help bolster another teams side. It matters not who it is the fact remains the same, it helps other teams, you’re being deliberately obtuse just to have another go.

We’ve not pinched Zack, you are again talking nonsense. This is the rider who only a few months ago was sacked by his team and tossed on the scrap heap. It’s only correct that he should look to better alternatives and a mega loyal team like Belle Vue is ideal, plus we’ll have a glowing recommendation off in brother. 
With regards Connor, it makes everyone sit up and take notice on the very very odd occasion that we make changes (the least of any team in recent/mid times). Other teams can drop riders willy nilly and it goes under the radar as it’s the norm. Belle Vue stand out in that respect. 
“Purely for your own clubs gain because you have to shed points” We have to shed points whilst simultaneously gaining. You are the fool if you can write that. 

[ouch]

28 minutes ago, TTT said:

I agree, I don't rate that 1-7 at all tbh, Great top two but it's an awfully long tail especially away from the NSS.

It’s the same team that won the league but with Zach (5.57) instead of Ben 6.99 due to rules. Will a 1.42 drop make a huge difference to our ability to qualify?

Zach finished strongly against some tough teams whilst in the main body of the side. In his last 3+3 meetings he averaged 6.40. Carry on like that and it limits the damage to our title winning team. 

[PotteringAround]

3 hours ago, Aries said:

Must have been a tough decision to choose one of either Vuolas and Tate. 

Nah.   Easy decision.   Zischke all day long. 

Vuolas is a good lad and has the novelty value of looking like a University Challenge contestant, but Zischke is the upcoming talent.