BluTiger Posted Friday at 06:02 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 06:02 PM Michelsen and Doyle are dead certs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB723 Posted Friday at 06:07 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 06:07 PM If no russians think it'll be Doyle Mikkelsen and Madsen with maybe Dudek or Janowski as the last one, though I also have a funny feeling Kvech could somehow get the wildcard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted Friday at 06:13 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 06:13 PM If the Russians are ignored, there will be an almighty backlash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted Friday at 06:20 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 06:20 PM Should be 4 from the following 5. Michelsen, Doyle, Emil, Laguta & Madsen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho3a Posted Friday at 07:37 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 07:37 PM Hopefully sense will prevail , Michelsen, Doyle, artem and emil.. Wouldn't like to pick top 6 from that 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW436 Posted Friday at 07:43 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 07:43 PM 1 hour ago, TTT said: Should be 4 from the following 5. Michelsen, Doyle, Emil, Laguta & Madsen Mikkelsen, Doyle, Emil and Artem but we know politics will probably prevail over common sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted Friday at 07:46 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 07:46 PM Doyle should be binned but he’s the darling so won’t be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaddlebowRoad Posted Friday at 07:49 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 07:49 PM 3 minutes ago, JanAndersen said: Doyle should be binned but he’s the darling so won’t be. based on what 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted Friday at 08:48 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 08:48 PM 2 hours ago, LagutaRacingFan said: If the Russians are ignored, there will be an almighty backlash. From you, maybe. No-one else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted Friday at 08:50 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 08:50 PM 50 minutes ago, SaddlebowRoad said: based on what On 2 fronts for me:- 1, age. Although that's harsh, I just don't think 35+ should be getting Wildcards. There absolutely has to be an age cut off. Top 6 & GP Challenge should be the only route for the old guys. 2, Doyle's pretty much guaranteed to have a massive accident which then becomes a wasted space given in the series. Doesn't allow the 1st reserve the chance to automatically qualify whom may deserve the spot anyway. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted Friday at 09:03 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 09:03 PM On 10/1/2024 at 8:15 AM, f-s-p said: Some laws (or rules) allow you to do stuff, others prohibit you from doing stuff. Thats the system. EDIT: Also one might wonder or think a minute about how "ridicolous" it is that Russia has been bombing the two Ukrainian speedway cities Rivne and Lviv for two years now... There are a few things beyond the obvious keeping the Russians sidelined. If they are now to be considered "Polish" then it is up the PZM to nominate them to contest the GPs -- presumably through next season's GP Challenge system. But obviously, there is a restriction on the nominations from any one governing body. That will mean they take the place of two "real Poles" in the system, which might not go down too well with the Polish public, who don't generally like Russia as a neighbour, and would feel aggrieved if (say) Magic and Dudek were dropped by the PZM to allow Emil and Laguta into the qualifiers...... Another route would be via the European Championship, albeit that only one could win it, and enter the GPs that way. But again, FIM Europe (a different organisation from the FIM in many ways) will have restrictions of their own....... In short, I don't see either of the Russians getting back into the GP system in the forseeable future. Unless the war is ended, of course. Over to you, Mr Putin! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted Friday at 09:09 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 09:09 PM 1 hour ago, SaddlebowRoad said: based on what He’s dangerous and past it. Give youth a chance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted Friday at 09:12 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 09:12 PM So when can we expect the announcement? Social media is not going to react well if Emil and Artem are excluded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmiler Posted Friday at 09:28 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 09:28 PM Wild card predictions: (I would love Emil & Artem but I just don’t see it happening) Jason Doyle Mikkel Michelsen Patryk Dudek Leon Madsen/Tai Woffinden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted Friday at 09:32 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 09:32 PM 3 minutes ago, TheSmiler said: Wild card predictions: (I would love Emil & Artem but I just don’t see it happening) Jason Doyle Mikkel Michelsen Patryk Dudek Leon Madsen/Tai Woffinden Have faith, I am told Eurosport are putting serious pressure on the FIM. Eurosport are expecting Artem and Emil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Friday at 10:50 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 10:50 PM 1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said: On 2 fronts for me:- 1, age. Although that's harsh, I just don't think 35+ should be getting Wildcards. There absolutely has to be an age cut off. Top 6 & GP Challenge should be the only route for the old guys. 2, Doyle's pretty much guaranteed to have a massive accident which then becomes a wasted space given in the series. Doesn't allow the 1st reserve the chance to automatically qualify whom may deserve the spot anyway. Sorry, but disagree completely. I see no reason why age should come into it at all, that's what the SGP2 is for. I'm pretty sure the it may be illegal to say wild cards are for U-35s anyway. As for your second point, why would the first reserve "deserve a spot" if they didn't qualify? For me the only riders who deserve wild cards are riders who would've finished in the top 6 bar injury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Friday at 10:54 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 10:54 PM For me it should be Doyle, Michelsen, Laguta & Sayfutdinov. Assuming they are still banned I'd replace the last two with Madsen & Thorsell (next in line from GPs / qualifiers). I'm quite surprised how many are suggesting Woffinden & Kvech. Woffinden was really poor this year & nowhere near a top 10 spot, let alone a top 6 spot. As for Kvech, he had a decent enough first season & at times showed promise, but he still finished bottom of the (non-injured) GP riders, so I don't see how that warrants a wild card. Could easily see him being one of the higher ranked reserves though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted Friday at 11:18 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 11:18 PM 17 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Sorry, but disagree completely. I see no reason why age should come into it at all, that's what the SGP2 is for. I'm pretty sure the it may be illegal to say wild cards are for U-35s anyway. As for your second point, why would the first reserve "deserve a spot" if they didn't qualify? For me the only riders who deserve wild cards are riders who would've finished in the top 6 bar injury. Doyle didn't quality & you can't guarantee Doyle would have been top 6, you are surmising. The reasoning of those that pick Doyle as Wildcard is no greater than the first reserve. The whole Wildcard thing drives me bonkers. What is the point of it if 7th & 8th are automatic picks &/or injured riders. Just make it top 10 & the rest from the Challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Saturday at 07:08 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 07:08 AM Madsen, Michelsen, Doyle, Janowski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted Saturday at 07:24 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 07:24 AM 11 hours ago, JanAndersen said: Doyle should be binned but he’s the darling so won’t be. Weird take.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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