IainB Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 1 hour ago, arnieg said: It's pure capitalism which is the very antithesis of woke. Doesn't he ride for Wokeington? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 2 hours ago, Pinny said: I still haven't seen any answers to the questions regarding Laguta & Emil being allowed to represent Poland in the SGP series? Both have Polish citizenship. Same as Rune Holta when he switched from Norway to Poland and represented Poland in the world cups and Grand Prix series. What is the difference here? Whilst Rune was indeed riding under a Polish licence and rode for them in the WTC, he was also conscious that he would have been unlikely to be nominated for a Wild Card as a Pole and was aware that he needed to be a top 8 rider to qualify for the next year's series. Can recall him saying that on one or more occasions in interviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 1 hour ago, customhouseregularisback said: I missed that one. I must have been on holiday. Or hibernating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 20 hours ago, mikebv said: For me, the top six go through to next year, the next 8 go through to the GP challenge,with the 15th being "relegated"... That 8 race against 8 qualifiers and the top 8 qualify... With the SEC Champ getting the last place.. If I remember correctly, the system used to be something like this but it was ended to stop Andy Smith qualifying every year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 2 hours ago, TTT said: Of course it's woke, Picking riders based on Nationality rather than picking the best riders available. All about diveristy in having as many Nationalities compete as possible. Whatever ‘woke’ means. A word now used when people disagree with an outcome. It’s lazy. It’s nothing to do with diversity. You think the fact that Kai Huckenback and Jan Kvech are German and Czech respectively and there are Grands Prix in those nations is merely a coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 21 minutes ago, JanAndersen said: Whatever ‘woke’ means. A word now used when people disagree with an outcome. It’s lazy. It’s nothing to do with diversity. You think the fact that Kai Huckenback and Jan Kvech are German and Czech respectively and there are Grands Prix in those nations is merely a coincidence? They could have been wildcards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 2 minutes ago, BluTiger said: They could have been wildcards... I’m not defending their inclusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregularisback Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 1 hour ago, norbold said: It's why Sverre Harrfeldt and Bjorn Knutson were never in the team together! Very clever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 3 hours ago, JanAndersen said: Whatever ‘woke’ means. A word now used when people disagree with an outcome. It’s lazy. It’s nothing to do with diversity. You think the fact that Kai Huckenback and Jan Kvech are German and Czech respectively and there are Grands Prix in those nations is merely a coincidence? They can be wildcards for one Round only. Doesn't mean they have to be given permanent spots every year over riders who are more worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 Madsen should've self identified as a German of Czech descent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byeall Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 1 minute ago, TTT said: Madsen should've self identified as a German of Czech descent. Deffo should have been a wild card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 18 minutes ago, TTT said: They can be wildcards for one Round only. Doesn't mean they have to be given permanent spots every year over riders who are more worthy. I didn’t say it does. I’m challenging your assertion that it’s ‘woke’ and a ‘diversity box ticking’ exercise though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 2 hours ago, JanAndersen said: I didn’t say it does. I’m challenging your assertion that it’s ‘woke’ and a ‘diversity box ticking’ exercise though. The proof is in the pudding though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 3 minutes ago, TTT said: The proof is in the pudding though. It's not. They're in because there are GPs in Germany and Czechia. That's neither woke nor anything to do with diversity. It's a questionable business decision, nothing more. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 48 minutes ago, JanAndersen said: It's not. They're in because there are GPs in Germany and Czechia. That's neither woke nor anything to do with diversity. It's a questionable business decision, nothing more. Yes - basically capitalism in operation, about the least woke thing you could imagine 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 9 Report Share Posted October 9 On 10/5/2024 at 12:03 AM, crescent girl said: There are a few things beyond the obvious keeping the Russians sidelined. If they are now to be considered "Polish" then it is up the PZM to nominate them to contest the GPs -- presumably through next season's GP Challenge system. But obviously, there is a restriction on the nominations from any one governing body. That will mean they take the place of two "real Poles" in the system, which might not go down too well with the Polish public, who don't generally like Russia as a neighbour, and would feel aggrieved if (say) Magic and Dudek were dropped by the PZM to allow Emil and Laguta into the qualifiers...... Another route would be via the European Championship, albeit that only one could win it, and enter the GPs that way. But again, FIM Europe (a different organisation from the FIM in many ways) will have restrictions of their own....... In short, I don't see either of the Russians getting back into the GP system in the forseeable future. Unless the war is ended, of course. Over to you, Mr Putin! You start with "If" In the eyes of the FIM they will not be considered Polish or PZM until MFR says they good to go. Poland has given them citizenship, PZM has given them licenses to ride as Polish in the Polish system. Has bugger all to do with FIM or FIM Europe meetings where they are still MFR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted October 9 Report Share Posted October 9 35 minutes ago, f-s-p said: You start with "If" In the eyes of the FIM they will not be considered Polish or PZM until MFR says they good to go. Poland has given them citizenship, PZM has given them licenses to ride as Polish in the Polish system. Has bugger all to do with FIM or FIM Europe meetings where they are still MFR. Could you clarify who or what MFR is. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 9 Report Share Posted October 9 12 minutes ago, 1 valve said: Could you clarify who or what MFR is. thanks. Motorcycle Federation of Russia (their ACU) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted October 9 Report Share Posted October 9 11 hours ago, JanAndersen said: It's not. They're in because there are GPs in Germany and Czechia. That's neither woke nor anything to do with diversity. It's a questionable business decision, nothing more. As Phil Morris would call it, "Commercial Considerations", which also accounts for the axeing of Madsen, who nonetheless may be better to begin self-indentifying as a Wolf or a Snow Leopard as a career move 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted October 9 Report Share Posted October 9 😂😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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