Shockster Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Zmarzlik IMO is the best rider in the world, but although he's World Champion, he's not the undisputed World Champion. It's like boxing and Laguta is still World champ in my eyes as he's not lost it yet? 🤨 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goneforgood Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 1 minute ago, Shockster said: I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Zmarzlik IMO is the best rider in the world, but although he's World Champion, he's not the undisputed World Champion. It's like boxing and Laguta is still World champ in my eyes as he's not lost it yet? 🤨 I agree full on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 20 minutes ago, Shockster said: I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Zmarzlik IMO is the best rider in the world, but although he's World Champion, he's not the undisputed World Champion. It's like boxing and Laguta is still World champ in my eyes as he's not lost it yet? 🤨 I genuinely don’t think he would be the threat he was a few years back, the year he won he was exceptional but although still a force in Poland I don’t think he would win again but I just wish we could find out 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 1 hour ago, TTT said: Wokeness strikes again. Another tainted victory for Zmarzlik next year.......Seriously Huckenbeck and Kvech lol, What have they done in this years GP series to justify those picks? Wokeness? Deary me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 25 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I genuinely don’t think he would be the threat he was a few years back, the year he won he was exceptional but although still a force in Poland I don’t think he would win again but I just wish we could find out Utter nonsense. Artem is top of the Polish league averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 10 minutes ago, LagutaRacingFan said: Utter nonsense. Artem is top of the Polish league averages. I guess you didn’t read my post, all the GPs are not in poland 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: It could of been Celina, she is German and they are woke enough She got an SGP2 wildcard ahead of stronger compatriots. I'm sure if she got anywhere near GP level, she'd get a wild card. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 1 hour ago, Hamish McRaker said: Does this mean that Lebedevs is not included? Haven't seen him mentioned. I'm in favour of giving new GP riders a two-year contract, with the provision that after year 1 they can be "terminated early" if they have badly underperformed. Under this arrangement, Lebedevs, Kvech and Huckenbeck would have been retained for a second year, and Wozniak eliminated. But Wozniak outscored Kvech! So who decides who has "badly underperformed" & who hasn't? Personally I'm not a fan of that rule, GPs are supposed to be hard, it's supposed to be tough to qualify. Plenty of riders have dropped out & come back in stronger, Woffinden, Hampel, Laguta, Vaculik, Sayfutdinov for example (if my memory is correct). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 24 minutes ago, JanAndersen said: Wokeness? Deary me Ticking boxes rather than assembling a proper GP line-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 Why not have a mini series prior to the GP's featuring the likes of Huckenbeck, Kvech, Dudek, Magic, Madsen, Thorsell etc with the top two clinching the final two spots. Would seem a much fairer way of doing it. One meeting at a Polish venue, one in Sweden/Denmark and one in Britain (perhaps a Championship track). The race offs could take place before a league meeting and imagine the interest they would generate! I know it's all a bit "pie in the sky" but there surely has to be a better way compared to the current system. Huckenbeck or Kvech over Madsen for example is just plain daft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 I think the phrase... "FOR F***S SAKE!!!!".. Was actually designed for this level of decision making.... 😁 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 36 minutes ago, Tinker said: Why not have a mini series prior to the GP's featuring the likes of Huckenbeck, Kvech, Dudek, Magic, Madsen, Thorsell etc with the top two clinching the final two spots. Would seem a much fairer way of doing it. One meeting at a Polish venue, one in Sweden/Denmark and one in Britain (perhaps a Championship track). The race offs could take place before a league meeting and imagine the interest they would generate! I know it's all a bit "pie in the sky" but there surely has to be a better way compared to the current system. Huckenbeck or Kvech over Madsen for example is just plain daft. For me, the top six go through to next year, the next 8 go through to the GP challenge,with the 15th being "relegated"... That 8 race against 8 qualifiers and the top 8 qualify... With the SEC Champ getting the last place.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phannan Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 It’s down to Robert and Dan to step up now to make it an interesting championship because without Laguta and Sayfutdinov competing it’ll be the usual damp squib. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 (edited) 49 minutes ago, mikebv said: with the 15th being "relegated"... Poor old Magic, first the FIM ostracise him and now @mikebv 😄 Edited October 7 by IainB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 (edited) 55 minutes ago, mikebv said: For me, the top six go through to next year, the next 8 go through to the GP challenge,with the 15th being "relegated"... That 8 race against 8 qualifiers and the top 8 qualify... With the SEC Champ getting the last place.. That's a lot better than the current system. Only downside is the likes of Doyle & Michelsen would miss out on 2025. Maybe plan wildcards before the GP Challenge, but only for riders who would have made the top 6 baring injury. So this year that would have been Doyle & Michelsen. Then bottom 8 meet top 8 qualifiers, with the top 6 qualifying for next year's GP? This idea also stops current GP riders having to enter the qualifiers, which I think is a good thing. Edited October 7 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 2 hours ago, TTT said: Ticking boxes rather than assembling a proper GP line-up. And that's woke is it? I'm not sure i agree with the wildcard choices but describing it as "woke" is ridiculous tbh. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 1 hour ago, mikebv said: For me, the top six go through to next year, the next 8 go through to the GP challenge,with the 15th being "relegated"... That 8 race against 8 qualifiers and the top 8 qualify... With the SEC Champ getting the last place.. Wouldn't get much change though with the bottom 8 having a 50% chance of being in it again the following year. I already struggle seeing the same riders against each other so am glad they at least give 16 riders outside the series the chance to qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 (edited) 6 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Totally agree, even now seeing so many people apparently astonished that Doyle has been picked, how can they be that dumb? Just remember, these are people on the BSF you're talking about... Edited October 7 by chunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andout Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 (edited) Nothing should be decided by Humans in an office......it should be decided on a track....any track before the SGP's start...then there could never be any complaints and we would have nothing to bitch about on here. Even Lagutafan could be happy......throw those two (Emil and Artem) into the mix and hey presto....everyone is happy. Edited October 7 by andout 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 26 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: Wouldn't get much change though with the bottom 8 having a 50% chance of being in it again the following year. I already struggle seeing the same riders against each other so am glad they at least give 16 riders outside the series the chance to qualify. Is that a bad thing though? If the current riders are better than the riders outside the series, why shouldn't they get back in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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