eric i Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 While I think the Russians should be allowed to compete under a neutral flag I can't see the FIM changing their mind. Bartosz Zmarzlik Robert Lambert Fredrik Lindgren Martin Vaculik Dan Bewley Jack Holder Mikkel Michelsen (Wildcard) Dominik Kubera (Wildcard) Leon Madsen (Wildcard) Andzejs Lebedevs (Euro champ) Jason Doyle (Wildcard) The Last 4 from the challenge, if Kubera qualifies from challenge and Fricke doesn't, Fricke will get his wildcard pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 (edited) You're wrong about the Russians. Eurosport have told the FIM that they are not happy with the viewing figures. The lack of title race has led to a sharp decline in viewership across Europe. The FIM reached out to Emil & Artem a few weeks ago and an agreement has been reached. Edited September 21 by LagutaRacingFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted September 22 Author Report Share Posted September 22 1 hour ago, LagutaRacingFan said: You're wrong about the Russians. Eurosport have told the FIM that they are not happy with the viewing figures. The lack of title race has led to a sharp decline in viewership across Europe. The FIM reached out to Emil & Artem a few weeks ago and an agreement has been reached. Source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 6 hours ago, eric i said: Source? Tomato 🍅 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 9 hours ago, LagutaRacingFan said: You're wrong about the Russians. Eurosport have told the FIM that they are not happy with the viewing figures. The lack of title race has led to a sharp decline in viewership across Europe. The FIM reached out to Emil & Artem a few weeks ago and an agreement has been reached. Have you got some evidence to back up your claim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixxxser44 Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 (edited) Not an official calendar: SGP 2025: GP1. Gorican GP2. Warsaw GP3. Prag GP4. Landshut GP5. Gorzow GP6. Cardiff GP7. Malilla GP8. Riga GP9. Wroclaw GP10. Vojens SON 2025: Torun SGP CHALLANGE 2026: Vojens SGP2 2025: GP1. Landshut GP2. Wroclaw GP3. Vojens Edited September 22 by mixxxser44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, mixxxser44 said: Not an official calendar: SGP 2025: GP1. Gorican GP2. Warsaw GP3. Prag GP4. Landshut GP5. Gorzow GP6. Cardiff GP7. Malilla GP8. Riga GP9. Wroclaw GP10. Vojens SON 2025: Torun SGP CHALLANGE 2026: Vojens SGP2 2025: GP1. Landshut GP2. Wroclaw GP3. Vojens Another rumour has No Gorican( Landshut kick it off Manchester in and after Landshut it’s Warsaw Prague Malilla Manchester Gorzow Wroclaw Cardiff Riga Vojens Edited September 22 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted September 22 Author Report Share Posted September 22 33 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Another rumour has No Gorican( Landshut kick it off Manchester in and after Landshut it’s Warsaw Prague Malilla Manchester Gorzow Wroclaw Cardiff Riga Vojens I would be surprised if they went to Manchester and Cardiff, probably wouldn't make financial sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 11 minutes ago, eric i said: I would be surprised if they went to Manchester and Cardiff, probably wouldn't make financial sense. The only thing i can add is - prepare to be surprised lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 15 hours ago, eric i said: While I think the Russians should be allowed to compete under a neutral flag I can't see the FIM changing their mind. Bartosz Zmarzlik Robert Lambert Fredrik Lindgren Martin Vaculik Dan Bewley Jack Holder Mikkel Michelsen (Wildcard) Dominik Kubera (Wildcard) Leon Madsen (Wildcard) Andzejs Lebedevs (Euro champ) Jason Doyle (Wildcard) The Last 4 from the challenge, if Kubera qualifies from challenge and Fricke doesn't, Fricke will get his wildcard pick. Don't want to see Madsen anywhere near the series in 25, he's done at this level now. I'd prefer youth brought in. I'd like to see a mix up next year, bring in some kids. SGP Top 6 Challenge top 4 SGP2 Top 3 Wildcards 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 52 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Don't want to see Madsen anywhere near the series in 25, he's done at this level now. I'd prefer youth brought in. I'd like to see a mix up next year, bring in some kids. SGP Top 6 Challenge top 4 SGP2 Top 3 Wildcards 2 What !! This is the World Championship not some benevolent society. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 55 minutes ago, racers and royals said: What !! This is the World Championship not some benevolent society. It's turning in to a benevolent society when grandad rider's with no chance of title challenges keep getting wildcard picks. Why not give youth an opportunity to build up their standards rather than constantly declining the standard. There has to be a way of bringing youth through & the GP Challenge is flawed in that the qualification standard & tracks used are poor. I absolutely believe the best rider's should be in the SGP, absolutely, but rider's like Woffinden, Madsen & Doyle need leaving out to further develop the series & find challengers to Zmarzlik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 5 hours ago, stewmac said: Have you got some evidence to back up your claim? I am just passing on information that I have been given. I don't have any evidence that would stand up in the court of law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 38 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: It's turning in to a benevolent society when grandad rider's with no chance of title challenges keep getting wildcard picks. Why not give youth an opportunity to build up their standards rather than constantly declining the standard. There has to be a way of bringing youth through & the GP Challenge is flawed in that the qualification standard & tracks used are poor. I absolutely believe the best rider's should be in the SGP, absolutely, but rider's like Woffinden, Madsen & Doyle need leaving out to further develop the series & find challengers to Zmarzlik. There are only two realistic challengers to Zmarzlik, and neither are in it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 49 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: I absolutely believe the best rider's should be in the SGP, And you propose a system that would have given Tomas Suchanek and David Kuwaja GP places! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregularisback Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 3 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Don't want to see Madsen anywhere near the series in 25, he's done at this level now. I'd prefer youth brought in. I'd like to see a mix up next year, bring in some kids. SGP Top 6 Challenge top 4 SGP2 Top 3 Wildcards 2 Not likely. You have omitted European Champion for a start. An argument for SGP2 winner could possibly be made. That would leave 3 wildcards, most likely 7th. and 8th. from previous year and one worthy pick. Personally I would prefer a regular field of 16, not 15, no one-off wildcards for each venue. That way I you have 4 permanent wildcards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 It's just an idea, how bad of me 😂 Looks like everyone would fit in well with the BSPL model of Speedway 😬 For me, the SGP desperately needs a freshening up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 4 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: I absolutely believe the best rider's should be in the SGP, absolutely, but rider's like Woffinden, Madsen & Doyle need leaving out So why contradict yourself? If you want the "best", then Doyle certainly should be there. Or was that just a fluke the way he started the season? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 3 minutes ago, chunky said: So why contradict yourself? If you want the "best", then Doyle certainly should be there. Or was that just a fluke the way he started the season? At the time of his injury, Doyle was third with 47 points, only just behind Holder on 48 and Zmarzlik on 50. If you rule Doyle out, I guess that means ruling out everyone else below him. So 13 new riders needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregularisback Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 54 minutes ago, norbold said: At the time of his injury, Doyle was third with 47 points, only just behind Holder on 48 and Zmarzlik on 50. If you rule Doyle out, I guess that means ruling out everyone else below him. So 13 new riders needed. Doyle absolutely. If, and a big if, Emil and Artem come back, that leaves 1. Has to be Michelson surely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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