4BenMoran Posted Tuesday at 08:31 AM Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:31 AM 2 hours ago, spin king junior said: Can't see it personally. At times I felt we really got caught out at reserve last season. Unfortunately I believe that is our top 5 for 2025 🙈 unless there’s a bit of averages manipulation early doors to get a 5 pointer in for the 3 point reserve that team won’t be picking up a trophy, we got stung lower down the order this season and will be the same next 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifesto Posted Tuesday at 09:47 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:47 AM Replacing Rowe for Howarth is a positive move. That team with Pickering firing is unreal especially at home. The semis against BV were decided by Pickos engine issues in the first leg and the Holder bro’s both having an off night in the home leg if we got past the semis we would of smashed Leicester. Not sure if Edwards and Gilkes would both be back as they were disappointing last season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BenMoran Posted Tuesday at 10:07 AM Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:07 AM 18 minutes ago, Manifesto said: Replacing Rowe for Howarth is a positive move. That team with Pickering firing is unreal especially at home. The semis against BV were decided by Pickos engine issues in the first leg and the Holder bro’s both having an off night in the home leg if we got past the semis we would of smashed Leicester. Not sure if Edwards and Gilkes would both be back as they were disappointing last season Don’t forget 95% of the season Rowe was at number 6 and not in main body of the team, he’ll struggle to maintain that average of at number 2 all season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted Tuesday at 10:14 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:14 AM (edited) If that is the team then it's one big risk, Probably the riskiest line-up we've seen in UK Speedway for some time when it comes to the higher profile clubs in the league. If Rowe gets injured then it's curtains for Sheffield because you cant get any decent replacement in or any decent guests considering his average is only 3.91. Pressure is immense on Picko as well and he'll need to have the season of his life for this team to work. Edited Tuesday at 10:21 AM by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Tuesday at 10:24 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:24 AM 15 minutes ago, 4BenMoran said: Don’t forget 95% of the season Rowe was at number 6 and not in main body of the team, he’ll struggle to maintain that average of at number 2 all season Rowe was at number 7 not 6. Anyway he got a 5+ average at reserve, so even of he only gets 4 in the team, he's still good value on his average imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Tuesday at 10:26 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:26 AM 10 minutes ago, TTT said: If that is the team then it's one big risk, Probably the riskiest line-up we've seen in UK Speedway for some time when it comes to the higher profile clubs in the league. If Rowe gets injured then it's curtains for Sheffield because you cant get any decent replacement in or any decent guests considering his average is only 3.91. Pressure is immense on Picko as well and he'll need to have the season of his life for this team to work. Obviously you don't want riders to get injured, but do you plans teams around that? Would Ipswich say no to Doyle & Sayfutdinov on case one of them gets injured? As for Rowe, as soon as he rides one match his rolling ave would shoot up for the next month's averages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Tuesday at 10:27 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:27 AM 4 hours ago, spin king junior said: Can't see it personally. At times I felt we really got caught out at reserve last season. That was to be expected, needed their top 5 to all perform so the reserves don't need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted Tuesday at 11:14 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:14 AM 57 minutes ago, TTT said: If that is the team then it's one big risk, Probably the riskiest line-up we've seen in UK Speedway for some time when it comes to the higher profile clubs in the league. If Rowe gets injured then it's curtains for Sheffield because you cant get any decent replacement in or any decent guests considering his average is only 3.91. Pressure is immense on Picko as well and he'll need to have the season of his life for this team to work. It’s only 3.91 for the first month, then it reverts to 5.21. I fully expect Anders to be kicked out at this point and replaced with a rider 5+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo95 Posted Tuesday at 11:42 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:42 AM 25 minutes ago, ouch said: It’s only 3.91 for the first month, then it reverts to 5.21. I fully expect Anders to be kicked out at this point and replaced with a rider 5+. Hopefully the promoters stop this from happening. Not really helping riders from the scheme being dropped for someone else (happened to Drew Kemp this season). A loophole I hope they remove from the rulebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted Tuesday at 11:54 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:54 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, TTT said: If that is the team then it's one big risk, Probably the riskiest line-up we've seen in UK Speedway for some time when it comes to the higher profile clubs in the league. If Rowe gets injured then it's curtains for Sheffield because you cant get any decent replacement in or any decent guests considering his average is only 3.91. Pressure is immense on Picko as well and he'll need to have the season of his life for this team to work. Agreed. Think the Holders and Woffy will maintain their averages, but then it's all the pressure on Pickering and Rowe to have a blinder of a season. Leaves us with a really unbalanced side and doesnt solve the problems we had last season. Edited Tuesday at 11:54 AM by spin king junior 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted Tuesday at 12:04 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 12:04 PM 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: Obviously you don't want riders to get injured, but do you plans teams around that? Would Ipswich say no to Doyle & Sayfutdinov on case one of them gets injured? As for Rowe, as soon as he rides one match his rolling ave would shoot up for the next month's averages. Different if it's riders with big averages as you'll have multiple options available like a good choice of guests to choose from or even a permanent signing if you can convince a big name to ride in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted Tuesday at 12:09 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 12:09 PM 51 minutes ago, ouch said: It’s only 3.91 for the first month, then it reverts to 5.21. I fully expect Anders to be kicked out at this point and replaced with a rider 5+. Problem is Picko's rolling average will shoot up after his late form this season so Sheffield won't have that amount of points to play with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted Tuesday at 12:12 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 12:12 PM 16 minutes ago, spin king junior said: Agreed. Think the Holders and Woffy will maintain their averages, but then it's all the pressure on Pickering and Rowe to have a blinder of a season. Leaves us with a really unbalanced side and doesnt solve the problems we had last season. On paper it's either boom or bust, Could be a case of High risk, High reward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTW Posted Tuesday at 12:22 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 12:22 PM With that rumoured team I would be very happy with that powerhouse top 3 Pickering very gd back up most tracks now,Anders Rowe will find it tough but he’s only going in one direction and the reserves know the Sheffield track and all of the away tracks well enough now,you’ve gotta have a few risks in team building but also make sure you have enough heat winners and that team should have plenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted Tuesday at 01:55 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 01:55 PM 17 hours ago, TTT said: This would explain the Howarth rumours, What if it's a 40.00 limit and Rowe is at No.2? 1. J. Holder 8.85 2. Rowe 3.91 3. Woffinden 8.45 4. Pickering 6.74 5. C. Holder 8.79 6. Edwards 3.00 7. Gilkes (RS) = 39.74 If that's the team it shows we haven't learnt from this season Edwards & Gilkes have not shown enough to say they will be the answer at reserve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifesto Posted Tuesday at 02:28 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:28 PM 32 minutes ago, The Third Man said: If that's the team it shows we haven't learnt from this season Edwards & Gilkes have not shown enough to say they will be the answer at reserve As poor as Edwards and Gilkes were, especially away. We managed to finish top of the league with many bonus points in the bag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted Tuesday at 03:48 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 03:48 PM 1 hour ago, Manifesto said: As poor as Edwards and Gilkes were, especially away. We managed to finish top of the league with many bonus points in the bag But didn't win the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifesto Posted Tuesday at 06:12 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:12 PM 2 hours ago, The Third Man said: But didn't win the league That’s sport sometimes, just about hitting form at the right time. Need to find some magic in a young reserve 2025 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Tuesday at 06:53 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:53 PM 9 hours ago, Manifesto said: Replacing Rowe for Howarth is a positive move. That team with Pickering firing is unreal especially at home. The semis against BV were decided by Pickos engine issues in the first leg and the Holder bro’s both having an off night in the home leg if we got past the semis we would of smashed Leicester. Not sure if Edwards and Gilkes would both be back as they were disappointing last season I think many people are being far too hard on Edwards. Moving up from a RS with a 2.67 (3.24) average in 2023, to the more difficult number 6 and getting a 3.55 (4.23) average is decent progress imo. Gilkes should maybe have done better, but can't see how people can fault Edwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Tuesday at 06:57 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:57 PM 3 hours ago, The Third Man said: But didn't win the league Not every team can win the league, if that's what's considered a successful season, does that mean 6 clubs had poor seasons & only Belle Vue did well? As Sheffield topped the "qualification league" and won the KOC, I don't see why they'd necessarily need to change the team makeup (strong top end, 2 x RS at the bottom) because of the disappointment in the play-offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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