IainB Posted yesterday at 01:04 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:04 PM 2 hours ago, 4thbender said: Getting a bit fed up now with the groundless insinuations about the Owlerton track being a danger. All speedway tracks have their moments of horror, but Owlerton is no worse than any other. This myth seems to have kicked off because Ben Cook had a shocker on bend two which knocked him senseless. But, to be fair, he was racing again ten days later. The only other accident of note at Sheffield during the 2024 season was the one which finished Emil Sayfutdinov's season, which occurred NOT on the allegedly "notorious" bend two, but on bend four, and was put down to Emil's over-exuberance to catch the race-leader (i.e. his own fault, rather than any fault of the track). Every venue has its share of bangs and scrapes every season, but nine times out of ten, riders get up and walk away, albeit licking their wounds rather gingerly. But for the record, the last time the Sheffield track saw a rider incur "life-changing" injuries was 2014, when Taylor Poole fractured a femur, causing him to draw a premature veil over his racing career (and that wasn't on bend two either). Speedway can be a dangerous sport at any venue and all tracks make every effort to ensure that rider safety is the paramount consideration. The problem is not helped by alarmist voices making baseless "wall of death" insinuations. I hadn't been to Owlerton for many years but started going again occasionally when Leicester were the visitors, now they're in the same league. It seems to me that riders have to be a lot more extreme in their moves to get a passes done these days than the last time I went. Whether that's to do with the track, bikes or quality of rider I'm not sure but there were real heart stopping moments where riders seemed to have to risk everything to make a pass rather than just riding a faster line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted yesterday at 01:04 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:04 PM 35 minutes ago, mikebv said: They just need to rake back the dirt that builds up near the fences.. You want riders to "fly around the outside" when watching Speedway... At Sheffield the dirt becomes too deep about a metre away from the fence to encourage riders to do that .. Or, the true racers, try to use that dirt and are never really 100% in control... The reputation gained isn't so much the crashes as they are infrequent when in context, its more the fact that when you watch riders trying to use the outside they "buck and rear" more than they should.. The track would deliver better racing if they just "thinned" the dirt up by the fence out a bit... Either that, or give Leicester some of the dirt! 😄 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted yesterday at 01:28 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:28 PM 2 hours ago, 4thbender said: Getting a bit fed up now with the groundless insinuations about the Owlerton track being a danger. All speedway tracks have their moments of horror, but Owlerton is no worse than any other. This myth seems to have kicked off because Ben Cook had a shocker on bend two which knocked him senseless. But, to be fair, he was racing again ten days later. The only other accident of note at Sheffield during the 2024 season was the one which finished Emil Sayfutdinov's season, which occurred NOT on the allegedly "notorious" bend two, but on bend four, and was put down to Emil's over-exuberance to catch the race-leader (i.e. his own fault, rather than any fault of the track). Every venue has its share of bangs and scrapes every season, but nine times out of ten, riders get up and walk away, albeit licking their wounds rather gingerly. But for the record, the last time the Sheffield track saw a rider incur "life-changing" injuries was 2014, when Taylor Poole fractured a femur, causing him to draw a premature veil over his racing career (and that wasn't on bend two either). Speedway can be a dangerous sport at any venue and all tracks make every effort to ensure that rider safety is the paramount consideration. The problem is not helped by alarmist voices making baseless "wall of death" insinuations. Chris holder even said the track was dangerous in a tv interview & jack holder won't even attempt it when it's bad also !! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted yesterday at 02:57 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:57 PM 1 hour ago, AceBelle said: Chris holder even said the track was dangerous in a tv interview & jack holder won't even attempt it when it's bad also !! Never saw Jack or Chris hold off last season at all, they both gave it all every match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted yesterday at 04:00 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 04:00 PM 2 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Either that, or give Leicester some of the dirt! 😄 It would be too dark to get it in the right place though!!...😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted yesterday at 04:42 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 04:42 PM 1 hour ago, The Third Man said: Never saw Jack or Chris hold off last season at all, they both gave it all every match Chris Holder said it on a eurosport meeting jack holder wasn't interested in play off semi final for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArseBellEnd Posted yesterday at 06:25 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:25 PM 3 hours ago, The Third Man said: Never saw Jack or Chris hold off last season at all, they both gave it all every match If @AceBelle says it... it must be true 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted yesterday at 07:32 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 07:32 PM 1 hour ago, ArseBellEnd said: If @AceBelle says it... it must be true 😂 grow up you child you really are pathetic !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted yesterday at 09:37 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:37 PM 10 hours ago, 4thbender said: Getting a bit fed up now with the groundless insinuations about the Owlerton track being a danger. All speedway tracks have their moments of horror, but Owlerton is no worse than any other. This myth seems to have kicked off because Ben Cook had a shocker on bend two which knocked him senseless. But, to be fair, he was racing again ten days later. The only other accident of note at Sheffield during the 2024 season was the one which finished Emil Sayfutdinov's season, which occurred NOT on the allegedly "notorious" bend two, but on bend four, and was put down to Emil's over-exuberance to catch the race-leader (i.e. his own fault, rather than any fault of the track). Every venue has its share of bangs and scrapes every season, but nine times out of ten, riders get up and walk away, albeit licking their wounds rather gingerly. But for the record, the last time the Sheffield track saw a rider incur "life-changing" injuries was 2014, when Taylor Poole fractured a femur, causing him to draw a premature veil over his racing career (and that wasn't on bend two either). Speedway can be a dangerous sport at any venue and all tracks make every effort to ensure that rider safety is the paramount consideration. The problem is not helped by alarmist voices making baseless "wall of death" insinuations. Bullsh!t. Unfortunately for you we all have eyes. Emil being the racer he is and type of fella he is, went for it but got caught up in that huge pile of dirt that gathered by the fence and it almost stopped him dead in his tracks. It’s dangerous and you know it. Stop trying to deny something which is blatantly obvious to everyone with a pair of eyes. 8 hours ago, AceBelle said: Chris holder even said the track was dangerous in a tv interview & jack holder won't even attempt it when it's bad also !! Correct. 6 hours ago, The Third Man said: Never saw Jack or Chris hold off last season at all, they both gave it all every match Again, unfortunately for you we all have ears as well. Chris Holder literally admitted live on TV that there was an issue with the track and had been for some time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaddlebowRoad Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago also tais comments on his tour he says riding the third and fourth bends at owlerton is the biggest adrenalin rush as hes never quite sure if hes getting round in one piece when riding wide because of the grip and visibility i very much suspect all the dirt being left so wide is a home advantage tactic but there is a fine line when safety is potentially compromised 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 9 hours ago, Steve Irving said: Bullsh!t. Unfortunately for you we all have eyes. Emil being the racer he is and type of fella he is, went for it but got caught up in that huge pile of dirt that gathered by the fence and it almost stopped him dead in his tracks. It’s dangerous and you know it. Stop trying to deny something which is blatantly obvious to everyone with a pair of eyes. Correct. Again, unfortunately for you we all have ears as well. Chris Holder literally admitted live on TV that there was an issue with the track and had been for some time. Some people don't listen 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 14 hours ago, ArseBellEnd said: If @AceBelle says it... it must be true 😂 Oh look someone else heard what Chris Holder said 🙄 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArseBellEnd Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, AceBelle said: Some people don't listen 👍 Some people won't shut up 🤐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago Emil broke his footrest down the back straight and however skilful he is there was no way he was going to get around the bends after that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: Emil broke his footrest down the back straight and however skilful he is there was no way he was going to get around the bends after that the build up of dirt is still what made him stop suddenly 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArseBellEnd Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 16 minutes ago, AceBelle said: the build up of dirt is still what made him stop suddenly 🙄 It was Chris Harris hitting him that made him stop even more suddenly and injured him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 18 minutes ago, ArseBellEnd said: It was Chris Harris hitting him that made him stop even more suddenly and injured him. He hit Harris watch it again child Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago Think people need to watch the incident again. He may well have broken his footrest, but that wasn’t what caused him to fall. He was simply being chucked all over the place by riding through the high dirt pile by the fence. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 27 minutes ago, ArseBellEnd said: It was Chris Harris hitting him that made him stop even more suddenly and injured him. Sayfutdinov was chasing jack holder hit the dirt and air fence & bounced onto the track where he collided with Harris who was in 3rd place Harris couldn't avoid him sadly watch it again on you tube @IainB child Edited 12 hours ago by AceBelle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago On 1/13/2025 at 10:50 AM, 4thbender said: Getting a bit fed up now with the groundless insinuations about the Owlerton track being a danger. All speedway tracks have their moments of horror, but Owlerton is no worse than any other. This myth seems to have kicked off because Ben Cook had a shocker on bend two which knocked him senseless. But, to be fair, he was racing again ten days later. The only other accident of note at Sheffield during the 2024 season was the one which finished Emil Sayfutdinov's season, which occurred NOT on the allegedly "notorious" bend two, but on bend four, and was put down to Emil's over-exuberance to catch the race-leader (i.e. his own fault, rather than any fault of the track). Every venue has its share of bangs and scrapes every season, but nine times out of ten, riders get up and walk away, albeit licking their wounds rather gingerly. But for the record, the last time the Sheffield track saw a rider incur "life-changing" injuries was 2014, when Taylor Poole fractured a femur, causing him to draw a premature veil over his racing career (and that wasn't on bend two either). Speedway can be a dangerous sport at any venue and all tracks make every effort to ensure that rider safety is the paramount consideration. The problem is not helped by alarmist voices making baseless "wall of death" insinuations. But Emil was forced wide and had no option but to try and get round so it wasn't really his fault. Just one of those things I suppose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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