Sheffield Tigers 2025

[4thbender]

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[Manifesto]

Gilkes seems very professional and dedicated to the sport I can’t see him leaving speedway any time soon. If he has had an offer from Oxford maybe there’s a bidding war going on.

Could we get a Christmas miracle and Facundo Albin return on a duel Argentinian/British passport 

[szkocjasid]

47 minutes ago, Manifesto said:

Gilkes seems very professional and dedicated to the sport I can’t see him leaving speedway any time soon. If he has had an offer from Oxford maybe there’s a bidding war going on.

Could we get a Christmas miracle and Facundo Albin return on a duel Argentinian/British passport 

No offence to Gilkes but why would clubs get into a bidding war over him? Especially Oxford who have lots of points to play with. 

Bit of a mystery when he wasn't announced for Sheffield.

[robolots]

Maybe "A Christmas Carol" and Bates as Scrooge would of been a more fitting advert 🤔😂

[Danny Connor]

Maybe it wasn't gilkes. 

What's the situation with josh bates. Maybe they tempted him to ride then he got cold feet?? 

[Wollyhat]

From what I understand at 6:00pm yesterday they were going to anounce the full team. At 6:05 after a phone call they were only in a position to anounce 6.  There had to be a quick edit of the video, which I thought was a great idea, and it was rolled out to the STAARS meeting at 8:00pm.  There was an apology from the management with a comitment to make an anouncement as soon as possible.  This makes me think that there was a verbale comitment from this rider and no contract signed. Just so glad to see my favorite "Picko" is back, but it is still a very useful team. Top four I would think. Just hope we avoid any major injuries.

[4thbender]

2 hours ago, robolots said:

Maybe "A Christmas Carol" and Bates as Scrooge would of been a more fitting advert 🤔😂

Steady as Bob Cratchit, Kyle as the Ghost of Christmas Past and Kith Chapman as the fat turkey?

[Hooky]

I’ve heard Gilkes wanted too much money.

[Youhave2minutes]

4 hours ago, Danny Connor said:

Maybe it wasn't gilkes. 

What's the situation with josh bates. Maybe they tempted him to ride then he got cold feet?? 

The only cold feet he has got is standing in all that snow

[szkocjasid]

59 minutes ago, Hooky said:

I’ve heard Gilkes wanted too much money.

I can understand Gilkes position, not expecting to score as many points as last year in a tougher position, so wanting more money.

But feel Sheffield are sensible to stand their ground, plenty of options who will score much the same as Dan would.

[4BenMoran]

1 hour ago, Hooky said:

I’ve heard Gilkes wanted too much money.

He was offered a deal by Oxford end of last season on better money than he was on at Sheffield, knowing what Sheffield have left points wise he could be playing them to get best deal for him 

[Roger Jacobs]

10 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

I didn't pick up on that till months after it happened, can't believe the BSPL, referee or opposition team didn't notice at the time.

Pearson was able to guest because he had an established Championship MA (Green Sheet) of 5.02, which was subject to the 1.5 conversion factor.

There's nothing else in the Regs regarding guest riders to overrule that.

Indeed, looking at the assessed riders Regs, there's nothing explicit about what happens to a rider who is subject to the minimum assessed average and then moves from Champ to Prem, if their converted average falls below the minimum.

If you think that's wrong, e-mail the BSPL and SCB to let them know.

[89buttons]

8 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said:

Pearson was able to guest because he had an established Championship MA (Green Sheet) of 5.02, which was subject to the 1.5 conversion factor.

There's nothing else in the Regs regarding guest riders to overrule that.

Indeed, looking at the assessed riders Regs, there's nothing explicit about what happens to a rider who is subject to the minimum assessed average and then moves from Champ to Prem, if their converted average falls below the minimum.

If you think that's wrong, e-mail the BSPL and SCB to let them know.

Also does Pearson have dual citizenship? I’m not sure but I thought he rode in the national league? 

[ouch]

6 minutes ago, 89buttons said:

Also does Pearson have dual citizenship? I’m not sure but I thought he rode in the national league? 

No. Aussie can now ride in the NDL. 

Edited 15 hours ago by ouch

[ouch]

14 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said:

Pearson was able to guest because he had an established Championship MA (Green Sheet) of 5.02, which was subject to the 1.5 conversion factor.

There's nothing else in the Regs regarding guest riders to overrule that.

Indeed, looking at the assessed riders Regs, there's nothing explicit about what happens to a rider who is subject to the minimum assessed average and then moves from Champ to Prem, if their converted average falls below the minimum.

If you think that's wrong, e-mail the BSPL and SCB to let them know.

2024 rule book

010.2.2.

Any other rider with an established average, cannot drop below 4.00 in the Premiership or Championship Leagues at any time during the season. 

 

He had an established average. 

He rode in a Premiership meeting. 

He dropped below 4.00.

It was at any time during the season.

 

There is no reason to check with the authorities as it is as clear as day when you read rule. 

 

 

[Racin Jason 72]

14 minutes ago, ouch said:

No. Aussie can now ride in the NDL. 

Matt marson ? The Australian that the evil Belle Vue colts have allowed to steal the place of a young English rider. 
maybe mark lemon should note how the angelic Chris Louis operates and nurtures young English talent. 

[Roger Jacobs]

1 hour ago, ouch said:

2024 rule book

010.2.2.

Any other rider with an established average, cannot drop below 4.00 in the Premiership or Championship Leagues at any time during the season. 

He had an established average. 

He rode in a Premiership meeting. 

He dropped below 4.00.

It was at any time during the season.

There is no reason to check with the authorities as it is as clear as day when you read rule. 

The point being made though is that the Regs you're quoting there aren't part of the Regulations for guests ... in there it says simply that a rider guesting in another league who doesn't have an Established MA in that league will be subject to the 1.5 conversion factor. There's no cross reference to the Reg you've quoted.

It's the usual SCB/BSPL ambiguity ...

Edited 14 hours ago by Roger Jacobs
Typo

[ouch]

1 hour ago, Roger Jacobs said:

The point being made though is that the Regs you're quoting there aren't part of the Regulations for guests ... in there it says simply that a rider guesting in another league who doesn't have an Established MA in that league will be subject to the 1.5 conversion factor. There's no cross reference to the Reg you've quoted.

It's the usual SCB/BSPL ambiguity ...

I get where you’re coming from with a UK speedway slant on things. 

From an everyday/everyman meaning then “Any other rider with an established average, cannot drop below 4.00 in the Premiership or Championship Leagues at any time during the season” means any other rider with an established average, cannot drop below 4.00 in the Premiership or Championship Leagues at any time during the season. 

An argument of this sort is EXACTLY why we will never be taken seriously as a bona fide sport, unfortunately. 

BTW, I call a spade a spade - discuss. 

[Siggytastic]

2 hours ago, ouch said:

I get where you’re coming from with a UK speedway slant on things. 

From an everyday/everyman meaning then “Any other rider with an established average, cannot drop below 4.00 in the Premiership or Championship Leagues at any time during the season” means any other rider with an established average, cannot drop below 4.00 in the Premiership or Championship Leagues at any time during the season. 

An argument of this sort is EXACTLY why we will never be taken seriously as a bona fide sport, unfortunately. 

BTW, I call a spade a spade - discuss. 

A spade is indeed a spade and should not be confused with a shovel. Other garden/construction tools are available but they have their own names.