Redcar 2025

[Redtruck]

  On 11/10/2024 at 10:23 PM, szkocjasid said:

Well don't look at @Redtruck team, even weaker at the bottom end lol!

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I agree weak but you would expect between Riss king and wright at least 10+ points each plus with Jason as back up shouldn’t leave too many points needed between Jake and reserves for a win 

[szkocjasid]

  On 11/11/2024 at 9:08 AM, Redtruck said:

I agree weak but you would expect between Riss king and wright at least 10+ points each plus with Jason as back up shouldn’t leave too many points needed between Jake and reserves for a win 

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Don't disagree with any of that, would be a fabulous top end of the team. Plus I see great improvement in Edwards.

Just pointing out that Ablitt / Mulford / Spencer was considered too weak at the bottom end.

[Gambo95]

  On 11/10/2024 at 4:11 PM, PotteringAround said:

But like I said, it wasn't a Belle Vue article.  It was a Jake Mulford interview from either James Black, Paul Burbridge, Ryan Guest, Keith McGhee or David Rowe.  (There are 5 articles on the page and those 5 names, but strangely it doesn't say who wrote which one).

 

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James Black will probably be the Redcar report.

He does Berwick reports (and the Berwick stream). Possibly some for Redcar, Edinburgh and Workington also.

[StevePark]

  On 11/11/2024 at 10:35 AM, Gambo95 said:

James Black will probably be the Redcar report.

He does Berwick reports (and the Berwick stream). Possibly some for Redcar, Edinburgh and Workington also.

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Probably more likely to be Keith McGhie, he's certainly been the Redcar SS "correspondent" in the past.

[Biffa]

Would love to see Erik back at Redcar. The Promotion can’t have failed to notice that he got one of the biggest cheers at Redcar last year when it was announced he was going to guest for the Bears for one meeting 

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

  On 11/10/2024 at 10:26 PM, szkocjasid said:

 

There's one rule I'm unsure on, I always thought once a rider averaged above 3.00 they can't drop back down below it. This has been seen with the likes of Adam Roynon averaging below 3 but having a 3 average. But I did see Kyle Bickley drop below 3 when he shouldn't have. 

 

So either the rules have changed, or they've forgotten them, or made mistakes, or ignore them when including British reductions, I'm not sure tbh

 

Charles Wright 8.37

Erik Riss 8.33

Danny King 7.88

Jason Edwards 6.18

Jake Mulford 4.27

Ace Pijper 3.00

Tom Spencer 2.00

Total 40.03

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surely he can drop below for his 2.5% reduction at least

Edited November 11, 2024 by allthegearbutnaeidea

[j2ohh]

  On 11/10/2024 at 1:47 AM, Diamonds85 said:

Belle Vue (the club not the fan base) strike me as a club who couldn't give a rubbishe about other clubs, only themselves, and look down their nose at other clubs, particularly ones not in the Premiership... we're just the common folk and they're the royalty... 🙄 something real dodgy about them imo.

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the same as Poole in the championship IMO .

[szkocjasid]

  On 11/11/2024 at 6:12 PM, allthegearbutnaeidea said:

surely he can drop below for his 2.5% reduction at least

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I'm really not sure, for example a rider on 2.01 doesn't drop below 2.00 with a British reduction.

But you rarely get riders who have previously averaged above 3 then dropped below it, so it's hard to know if the rule still exists (& if it includes British reductions).

Most recent cases are Adam Roynon & William Lawson (stayed on 3.00) while Kyle Bickley dropped below 3.00. So consistency is lacking somewhere.

[Redtruck]

  On 11/11/2024 at 7:21 PM, szkocjasid said:

I'm really not sure, for example a rider on 2.01 doesn't drop below 2.00 with a British reduction.

But you rarely get riders who have previously averaged above 3 then dropped below it, so it's hard to know if the rule still exists (& if it includes British reductions).

Most recent cases are Adam Roynon & William Lawson (stayed on 3.00) while Kyle Bickley dropped below 3.00. So consistency is lacking somewhere.

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Nathan ablitt finished the 2023 season on a 3.00 and started 2024 on 2.92 just checked on the British speedway declarations 

[Fortythirtyeight]

  On 11/11/2024 at 10:35 AM, Gambo95 said:

James Black will probably be the Redcar report.

He does Berwick reports (and the Berwick stream). Possibly some for Redcar, Edinburgh and Workington also.

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So not McGee, who is the club press officer !

[Fromafar]

  On 11/11/2024 at 9:09 PM, Fortythirtyeight said:

So not McGee, who is the club press officer !

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It’s not really a hanging offence .

[Diamonds85]

  On 11/11/2024 at 7:21 PM, szkocjasid said:

I'm really not sure, for example a rider on 2.01 doesn't drop below 2.00 with a British reduction.

But you rarely get riders who have previously averaged above 3 then dropped below it, so it's hard to know if the rule still exists (& if it includes British reductions).

Most recent cases are Adam Roynon & William Lawson (stayed on 3.00) while Kyle Bickley dropped below 3.00. So consistency is lacking somewhere.

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If I recall correctly it's because both Adam and Willie achieved an average above 8 in the second tier in the past (I think 8 was the threshold that was used) but I'm trying to rejog my memory from a rule from years ago here to who knows...

[Robinh88]

  On 11/11/2024 at 12:42 PM, Biffa said:

Would love to see Erik back at Redcar. The Promotion can’t have failed to notice that he got one of the biggest cheers at Redcar last year when it was announced he was going to guest for the Bears for one meeting 

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But fans cheering doesn't pay extra wages that it would take bring Erik back?

He was excellent TBF when he guested against Scunthorpe.

[szkocjasid]

  On 11/12/2024 at 12:04 AM, Diamonds85 said:

If I recall correctly it's because both Adam and Willie achieved an average above 8 in the second tier in the past (I think 8 was the threshold that was used) but I'm trying to rejog my memory from a rule from years ago here to who knows...

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Same here, it's not a rule that gets used often so hard to remember it.

[szkocjasid]

  On 11/11/2024 at 8:26 PM, Redtruck said:

Nathan ablitt finished the 2023 season on a 3.00 and started 2024 on 2.92 just checked on the British speedway declarations 

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That rings a bell, 3.00 becomes 2.925 which I thought got rounded up to 2.93, which would've put Scunthorpe 0.01 over the limit. Using these rules Ace would be 2.92 also.

[Fromafar]

  On 11/12/2024 at 9:09 AM, szkocjasid said:

That rings a bell, 3.00 becomes 2.925 which I thought got rounded up to 2.93, which would've put Scunthorpe 0.01 over the limit. Using these rules Ace would be 2.92 also.

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So did Quasi Modo.👍

[Mr Blobby]

  On 11/12/2024 at 9:09 AM, szkocjasid said:

That rings a bell, 3.00 becomes 2.925 which I thought got rounded up to 2.93, which would've put Scunthorpe 0.01 over the limit. Using these rules Ace would be 2.92 also.

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But that was for Godfrey any other team in the league would’ve been 2.93. It’s corrupt.

[Gambo95]

  On 11/10/2024 at 5:11 AM, PotteringAround said:

You seem confused about the source of your news.  The Belle Vue press release (from press officer Hayley Bromley) regarding Mulford said nothing about his Championship team 

See here  https://www.bellevue-speedway.com/blog/latest-news-2/2025-rising-star-revealed-355.  That was 18 October and there has been no release from Belle Vue since.  (If they can be accused of anything, it's a lack of any press info from the club).

The subject of your anger should to be the Speedway Star journalist (Keith McGhee, I guess?) who seems to have leaked the Redcar news in an ainterview with Mulford in Speedway Star.   (The authors of the articles are listed at the top of the page, but they don't say which person wrote which article on the page.  However McGhee seems to be the only Northern one, so I guess it's him as he's North Yorkshire based).

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  On 11/10/2024 at 4:11 PM, PotteringAround said:

But like I said, it wasn't a Belle Vue article.  It was a Jake Mulford interview from either James Black, Paul Burbridge, Ryan Guest, Keith McGhee or David Rowe.  (There are 5 articles on the page and those 5 names, but strangely it doesn't say who wrote which one).

 

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  On 11/11/2024 at 11:29 AM, StevePark said:

Probably more likely to be Keith McGhie, he's certainly been the Redcar SS "correspondent" in the past.

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  On 11/11/2024 at 9:09 PM, Fortythirtyeight said:

So not McGee, who is the club press officer !

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I was just going off others suggestions that McGhee was Belle Vue and others were southern based. When I have been at Redcar I have seen articles in the program from James.

[ragdoll64]

  On 11/12/2024 at 10:47 AM, Fromafar said:

So did Quasi Modo.👍

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….and he was rounded up…..lol

[Noelinho]

  On 11/12/2024 at 9:05 AM, szkocjasid said:

Same here, it's not a rule that gets used often so hard to remember it.

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It's the Premiership that has a 3.00 minimum rule. Does not apply to the Championship.