Belle Vue -V- Leicester POF

[AceBelle]

1 hour ago, IainB said:

He scored 6 from 4 in April though. 

Also Bewley and kurtz won prem pairs in 2022 there so they know how to ride the place 

[SUPERACE]

3 hours ago, ouch said:

Belle Vue put in a shockingly bad performance back in April, their worst of the season with a full team. Even so we were only 12 down entering heat 15 when Lidsey & Mountain got 5-1’d. I’m hoping we put in a better performance but if not fingers crossed Dan and Brady can do better than Jaimon and Connor did in the decider. 

We don't need to if 12 down going into heat 15 we have won.  Forget past meetings it's the playoffs riders go harder.  It's not over as 18 isn't impossible, but it's very very hard to pull back 18 points, it does happen but not often.  

[Roger Jacobs]

4 hours ago, IainB said:

Yes, heat leader winner, just saw that 

Belle Vue had 3 heat winners at Leicester in April and 5 (and 3 other 3-3's) in July and they still managed to lose by 20! It's about heat advantages not heat winners

Well, you need a heat winner to get a heat advantage! BV had 13, so were unlikely to lose. You could see Leicester settling for 3-3s in at least a couple of races, e.g. when Hagon got into second place - now the trick for BV at Leicester is to do similar, i.e. avoid last places.

[DaveWayne]

1 hour ago, Racin Jason 72 said:

Yawn

Thanks for your input. It gets boring for the rest of us as well. Anybody would think Ipswich were the only team ever to lose one of their best 2 riders to a long term injury.

[IainB]

38 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said:

Well, you need a heat winner to get a heat advantage! BV had 13, so were unlikely to lose. You could see Leicester settling for 3-3s in at least a couple of races, e.g. when Hagon got into second place - now the trick for BV at Leicester is to do similar, i.e. avoid last places.

Indeed you do, looking at Leicester's 20 point victory in April, which they'll need to replicate, more than half the heats were actually 3-3's!

[TTT]

BV would have to do a choke of all chokes for Leicester to win.

This see's BV over the line.

 

Bewley & Kurtz (20 between them)

Lidsey & NKI (12 between them)

Blodorn, Voulas & Mulford (5 between them and they can do that just by beating Hagon with 3-3's in Heat 2 and Heat 7)

[Gavan]

35 minutes ago, DaveWayne said:

Thanks for your input. It gets boring for the rest of us as well. Anybody would think Ipswich were the only team ever to lose one of their best 2 riders to a long term injury.

Not ever but you can’t compare Sheffield to Ipswich …. Ok let’s say Doyle and Tai are comparable … you lost Jack for 2 meetings middle of the season when secure in top 4…. We lost Emil for the business end 

We had Ellis King and Dan Thompson all out injured and all riding with their injuries

We when lost Jenkins when he was in form and again at the business end when it’s important 

Even Rew had one nasty smash at end of the season 

So no Sheffield has nowhere near the same issues as Ipswich ….. most true fans know Ipswich were unlucky this year but that’s speedway and I’m sure with a full 1-7 we would have seen off Leicester and Sheffield although we would have struggled against Belle Vue as they always thrash us up there!!

[ShanoXtra]

38 minutes ago, Gavan said:

Not ever but you can’t compare Sheffield to Ipswich …. Ok let’s say Doyle and Tai are comparable … you lost Jack for 2 meetings middle of the season when secure in top 4…. We lost Emil for the business end 

We had Ellis King and Dan Thompson all out injured and all riding with their injuries

We when lost Jenkins when he was in form and again at the business end when it’s important 

Even Rew had one nasty smash at end of the season 

So no Sheffield has nowhere near the same issues as Ipswich ….. most true fans know Ipswich were unlucky this year but that’s speedway and I’m sure with a full 1-7 we would have seen off Leicester and Sheffield although we would have struggled against Belle Vue as they always thrash us up there!!

You need to remember they lost J.Holder last Thursday as well. Apparently he went missing! 

[AceBelle]

2 hours ago, SUPERACE said:

We don't need to if 12 down going into heat 15 we have won.  Forget past meetings it's the playoffs riders go harder.  It's not over as 18 isn't impossible, but it's very very hard to pull back 18 points, it does happen but not often.  

sheffield did it last year !!

[Col]

2 hours ago, DaveWayne said:

Anybody would think Ipswich were the only team ever to lose one of their best 2 riders to a long term injury.

It was an annual thing at Dudley Wood!

89 - Gundersen,& Pedersen.

90 - Pedersen & Cross.  A young Hancock also started the season on fire at reserve but was out for a stint.

92 - Pedersen.

[AceBelle]

3 hours ago, Roger Jacobs said:

Well, you need a heat winner to get a heat advantage! BV had 13, so were unlikely to lose. You could see Leicester settling for 3-3s in at least a couple of races, e.g. when Hagon got into second place - now the trick for BV at Leicester is to do similar, i.e. avoid last places.

or for bewley/kurtz / Lidsey / iversen just to win every heat !!

[Hackett]

In the Premiership most of the Aces had a bad meeting so no doubt Lions will be hoping for a repeat performance. Could weather play apart in the 2nd leg. 

Lions are solid at home with Fricke, Lawson, Douglas and Masters giving them a solid top 4 if they can all make strong contributions and Becker and reserves outscore their Aces counterparts it could come down to those heats 13+15. BUT a big ask for the Lions. 

[Col]

2 hours ago, AceBelle said:

or for bewley/kurtz / Lidsey / iversen just to win every heat !!

I suspect they may need to win a few.  Can't see Mulford troubling the Lions & Voulas may never have been to Beaumont Park before.  However Blodorn was decent there when I saw him.

Fricke could well go unbeaten, but the Aces top 3 & Iversen should take points off the rest of the Lions.