StevePark Posted Thursday at 07:54 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:54 AM 15 hours ago, Fromafar said: Agree most Clubs reluctant to race on their Alternative racenight,probably due to their own rider availability,once again I say riders are running the show to the detriment of the paying fans.I just wonder how many Clubs increase their attendance figures this season. Surely, the riders are "the show"?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirao Posted Thursday at 08:26 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:26 AM 30 minutes ago, StevePark said: Surely, the riders are "the show"?? Not when they don't turn up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted Thursday at 08:35 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:35 AM 39 minutes ago, StevePark said: Surely, the riders are "the show"?? Maybe the “show” is not the correct phrase.They are dictating when they are available maybe a better description.IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2ohh Posted Thursday at 02:09 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 02:09 PM vissing to be announced at er , santa claus time . then vinnie and sam hagon .. good reserves . 2025 championship side starting to be put together . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted Thursday at 05:04 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:04 PM 2 hours ago, j2ohh said: vissing to be announced at er , santa claus time . then vinnie and sam hagon .. good reserves . 2025 championship side starting to be put together . Kyle Howarth maybe with Harris and Flint top 3 Educated guess though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted Thursday at 05:06 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:06 PM 1 minute ago, Catch Me If You Can said: Kyle Howarth maybe with Harris and Flint top 3 Educated guess though Howarth going south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted Thursday at 05:08 PM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:08 PM 2 minutes ago, Catch Me If You Can said: Kyle Howarth maybe with Harris and Flint top 3 Educated guess though Howarth used to be abysmal round ashfield, last couple appearances been double figures though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted Thursday at 05:08 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:08 PM 1 minute ago, lewy said: Howarth going south. To Oxford or Plymouth then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted Thursday at 05:08 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:08 PM Just now, Pirates Of Poole said: To Oxford or Plymouth then! No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted Thursday at 05:13 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:13 PM 3 minutes ago, lewy said: No Definitely not Poole. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted Thursday at 05:30 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:30 PM 16 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Definitely not Poole. Why not! I was thinking he could fit in the team the other day and lives near Swindon? So not that far for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted Thursday at 06:56 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 06:56 PM 10 hours ago, Fromafar said: Maybe the “show” is not the correct phrase.They are dictating when they are available maybe a better description.IMO That isn't strictly true either, though, is it? The "powers that be" in World Speedway have decreed a "pecking order of importance", with the UK way down that list. Riders have to abide to that. Although it's true to say the riders will be aware which team is higher on the list when they sign for other countries teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted Thursday at 06:57 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 06:57 PM 1 minute ago, StevePark said: That isn't strictly true either, though, is it? The "powers that be" in World Speedway have decreed a "pecking order of importance", with the UK way down that list. Riders have to abide to that. Although it's true to say the riders will be aware which team is higher on the list when they sign for other countries teams. I give in you win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago 16 hours ago, j2ohh said: vissing to be announced at er , santa claus time . then vinnie and sam hagon .. good reserves . 2025 championship side starting to be put together. If they are the reserves, would imagine it would be a weak looking middle order. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2ohh Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: If they are the reserves, would imagine it would be a weak looking middle order. the reason why i have vinnie and sam in the Glasgow 2025 line up is because they performed well in the u21 ? championship at Ashfield this season . promotion would have been impresed by both riders perfomaces . claus is another who performed well on his guest booking early season . i have NO inside info , but i think thats the way Glasgow work , innit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago 2 minutes ago, j2ohh said: the reason why i have vinnie and sam in the Glasgow 2025 line up is because they performed well in the u21 ? championship at Ashfield this season . promotion would have been impresed by both riders perfomaces . claus is another who performed well on his guest booking early season . i have NO inside info , but i think thats the way Glasgow work , innit . I'm not saying they wouldn't be good signings, just that of you use up 8.5 point at reserve, doesn't leave much for the top 5, especially with Harris at one. Wether it's a 38 or 40 limit, makes a big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2ohh Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 14 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I'm not saying they wouldn't be good signings, just that of you use up 8.5 point at reserve, doesn't leave much for the top 5, especially with Harris at one. Wether it's a 38 or 40 limit, makes a big difference. i see what ur saying . worky hade 2 reserves who struggled most of the season , but got into the play offs . you need strong 6 and 7 riders to beat the oppo 6/7 most of the time , if not your number 5 rider is giving the team little heat advantages apart from 13/15 heats . i dont think Poo;e want both riders in their 2025 team because they want/need to fill 1 to 5 with superstars . would like to see them both @worky in 25 after last years 6 and 7 we had . good reserves win races and points make prizes . Edited 17 hours ago by j2ohh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) With Vinnie on a 4 ave and sam on a 4.85 they would not be reserves Edited 17 hours ago by mac101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 2 hours ago, j2ohh said: i see what ur saying . worky hade 2 reserves who struggled most of the season , but got into the play offs . you need strong 6 and 7 riders to beat the oppo 6/7 most of the time , if not your number 5 rider is giving the team little heat advantages apart from 13/15 heats . i dont think Poo;e want both riders in their 2025 team because they want/need to fill 1 to 5 with superstars . would like to see them both @worky in 25 after last years 6 and 7 we had . good reserves win races and points make prizes . I totally get your point, having strong reserves is ideal for winning trophies, but it's not that simple. Last year Glasgow looked to have solid reserves, but it meant weaker second strings. Plymouth probably had the strongest reserves all year, but it didn't do them any good as they didn't have top end strength. I'd say Scunthorpe had the best reserve situation, starting with Ablitt on 3.5 & Harrison on 2.00. Ablitt ending above 5 & Harrison nearly 5. These are the figures that should win trophies, strong reserves because of improvement, but Scunthorpe then fell apart elsewhere in the team, when it mattered at the end. If Hagon & Foord go well at Glasgow, I'd look at including them along with a 2.00 rider you expect to up his average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 9 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I totally get your point, having strong reserves is ideal for winning trophies, but it's not that simple. Last year Glasgow looked to have solid reserves, but it meant weaker second strings. Plymouth probably had the strongest reserves all year, but it didn't do them any good as they didn't have top end strength. I'd say Scunthorpe had the best reserve situation, starting with Ablitt on 3.5 & Harrison on 2.00. Ablitt ending above 5 & Harrison nearly 5. These are the figures that should win trophies, strong reserves because of improvement, but Scunthorpe then fell apart elsewhere in the team, when it mattered at the end. If Hagon & Foord go well at Glasgow, I'd look at including them along with a 2.00 rider you expect to up his average. Scunny reserves +4.55 Oxford's +5.11. [But Oxford lose out because of the drop off in Atkins form] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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