ljriley90 Posted Saturday at 09:27 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:27 PM Any news on jack smiths likely whereabouts for 2025 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woke23 Posted Saturday at 10:43 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 10:43 PM 1 hour ago, ljriley90 said: Any news on jack smiths likely whereabouts for 2025 The last thing I heard was that he hasn't gotten an offer for next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Saturday at 11:10 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:10 PM 1 hour ago, ljriley90 said: Any news on jack smiths likely whereabouts for 2025 No matter what Jack scores or what his average is, he struggles to find a team. Bit of a shame that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted Saturday at 11:21 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:21 PM 1 hour ago, ljriley90 said: Any news on jack smiths likely whereabouts for 2025 Been trying to get a team place for 10 years, so can't see him signing for anyone in 2025, yes Glasgow used him, but the numbers fitted 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted yesterday at 12:28 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:28 AM 1 hour ago, Neila said: Been trying to get a team place for 10 years, so can't see him signing for anyone in 2025, yes Glasgow used him, but the numbers fitted Yet people are insistent that there's a shortage of riders... There's been so many in very recent years that have jacked it in after not finding a team or being bounced from team to team because of their average or performing too well... Ben Trigger next? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BenMoran Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM Pretty sure Jack Smith will be a number 1 in NDL team, so might end up with odd Championship guest booking and get a slot somewhere replacing an under performing 2-3 pointer when changes start being made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted yesterday at 10:19 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:19 AM 9 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Yet people are insistent that there's a shortage of riders... There's been so many in very recent years that have jacked it in after not finding a team or being bounced from team to team because of their average or performing too well... Ben Trigger next? All the while reducing the averages of foreign riders to help them get team places! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted yesterday at 10:48 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:48 AM 10 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Yet people are insistent that there's a shortage of riders... There's been so many in very recent years that have jacked it in after not finding a team or being bounced from team to team because of their average or performing too well... Ben Trigger next? The "problem" is, in my opinion, there are quite a few NDL standard riders out there, it's just proving a too bigger step up to Championship level for a lot of them. I think Newcastle tried 3, maybe 4 and none of them were ready for the Championship and I include Jack Smith in that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted yesterday at 11:06 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:06 AM 15 minutes ago, StevePark said: The "problem" is, in my opinion, there are quite a few NDL standard riders out there, it's just proving a too bigger step up to Championship level for a lot of them. I think Newcastle tried 3, maybe 4 and none of them were ready for the Championship and I include Jack Smith in that. this has been true for a while now - the only answer is to weaken the 2nd level which they will resist but for the good of the future it should be made to happen. It would also make Div 2 cheaper to run in theory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted yesterday at 11:16 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:16 AM 7 minutes ago, ch958 said: this has been true for a while now - the only answer is to weaken the 2nd level which they will resist but for the good of the future it should be made to happen. It would also make Div 2 cheaper to run in theory They have weaken the 2nd level over the last few seasons but there has been a increase in Admission Prices,that won’t attract more fans. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted yesterday at 11:23 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:23 AM 4 minutes ago, Fromafar said: They have weaken the 2nd level over the last few seasons but there has been a increase in Admission Prices,that won’t attract more fans. I think most of the admission prices increase is down to the running cost, fuel, tyres,utilities etc weakening the product just goes some way to offset this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted yesterday at 11:30 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:30 AM 4 minutes ago, lewy said: I think most of the admission prices increase is down to the running cost, fuel, tyres,utilities etc weakening the product just goes some way to offset this. Not disagreeing but it won’t won’t attract more fans .IMO.Fans that already attend don’t really want too pay more for an inferior product. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted yesterday at 12:45 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:45 PM 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: Not disagreeing but it won’t won’t attract more fans .IMO.Fans that already attend don’t really want too pay more for an inferior product. Why is it an inferior product. If you build a reasonable 1-7 and are up against similar strength opposition then the racing should be just as good. Then it's,a question of how you promote/publicise your club and its fixtures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted yesterday at 12:54 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:54 PM 7 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: Why is it an inferior product. If you build a reasonable 1-7 and are up against similar strength opposition then the racing should be just as good. Then it's,a question of how you promote/publicise your club and its fixtures. If that's the case why do Poole fans not support nl racing? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted yesterday at 01:15 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:15 PM 28 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: Why is it an inferior product. If you build a reasonable 1-7 and are up against similar strength opposition then the racing should be just as good. Then it's,a question of how you promote/publicise your club and its fixtures. Quality of riders then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted yesterday at 01:50 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:50 PM 55 minutes ago, lewy said: If that's the case why do Poole fans not support nl racing? Wish I knew why. Fickle???? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted yesterday at 01:57 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:57 PM 5 minutes ago, Catalan said: Wish I knew why. Fickle???? Fans don’t turn up in sufficient numbers at most Clubs to support it is one reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted yesterday at 02:04 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:04 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, StevePark said: The "problem" is, in my opinion, there are quite a few NDL standard riders out there, it's just proving a too bigger step up to Championship level for a lot of them. I think Newcastle tried 3, maybe 4 and none of them were ready for the Championship and I include Jack Smith in that. 3 hours ago, ch958 said: this has been true for a while now - the only answer is to weaken the 2nd level which they will resist but for the good of the future it should be made to happen. It would also make Div 2 cheaper to run in theory It all stems from not enough riders, especially good riders in the Premiership, mugged away the chance back in the Elite/Sky days. If you had a stand alone Premiership with top line riders, without the doubling up of so many and only a few of the heat leaders from the championship in the Premiership it wouldn't be the problem, and you'd have natural progression from NL to championship with closer racing and progression of the ones to make it, or be competitive in the championship. Unfortunately through bad management/promotion of the product, those days have gone....shame, not enough teams left to do it now and the problems Poland have caused with race nights means almost no way back. Edited yesterday at 02:09 PM by gazzac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted yesterday at 02:37 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:37 PM 40 minutes ago, Catalan said: Wish I knew why. Fickle???? Good to see you at non league match yesterday catalan,great afternoons entertainment,over a thousand there and most of them would prefer non league to prem league! But that outlook somehow doesn't apply in speedway ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted yesterday at 03:30 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:30 PM 2 hours ago, lewy said: If that's the case why do Poole fans not support nl racing? Because Poole usually has a highly competitive senior side! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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