Steve Irving Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 22 minutes ago, ouch said: Please don’t bracket Belle Vue with Ipswich & Sheffield on this matter, there is just no comparison, sadly. Oh there is, 100%. Every club, Belle Vue included, build the best teams they can within the budget they have, without a seconds thought for anyone else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 https://x.com/ipswichspeedway/status/1855878987488141556?s=61&t=WGGG_bqEEeOH78cfmD9Reg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted November 11 Author Report Share Posted November 11 Expected, but awesome news. 6.8 left for final rider….😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 (edited) Good news indeed - Jason has become Mr Ipswich in many ways so great to have him back, his bursts from the back when failing to make the gate are highlights for sure. If it is Tom B tomorrow then that would be a great signing have a lot of time for him, at the same time it will be a shame if Rew isn't returning as in my view he made great improvement last year and will be a decent rider. It has to be Tom B though to ensure the team is as strong as can be. Edited November 11 by GeneralMelchett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 Welcome back Jason, great news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 19 minutes ago, GeneralMelchett said: Good news indeed - Jason has become Mr Ipswich in many ways so great to have him back, his bursts from the back when failing to make the gate are highlights for sure. If it is Tom B tomorrow then that would be a great signing have a lot of time for him, at the same time it will be a shame if Rew isn't returning as in my view he made great improvement last year and will be a decent rider. It has to be Tom B though to ensure the team is as strong as can be. Surely they can't announce the final rider before the AGM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 2 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Surely they can't announce the final rider before the AGM? tomorrow or whenever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 1 hour ago, GeneralMelchett said: Good news indeed - Jason has become Mr Ipswich in many ways so great to have him back, his bursts from the back when failing to make the gate are highlights for sure. If it is Tom B tomorrow then that would be a great signing have a lot of time for him, at the same time it will be a shame if Rew isn't returning as in my view he made great improvement last year and will be a decent rider. It has to be Tom B though to ensure the team is as strong as can be. Personally I would have preferred Rew to Ellis, Rew will only get better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted November 11 Author Report Share Posted November 11 15 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Personally I would have preferred Rew to Ellis, Rew will only get better. Possibly, but you never really know. The same was said about Heeps back in the day, and more recently, Drew Kemp. Might still happen for Kemp as he’s still young enough, but the signs aren’t great. Fact is, Rew still spent most of this year at reserve and still averaged less than both Ellis and King, and King spent a large part of the season riding injured! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 Have Ipswich played their hand a tad early here? All the others now know who Ipswich’ team is, so if they think it looks too strong they could club together and reduce the limit to 39, and Brennan suddenly doesn’t fit. Yes they would all have been working towards the same 40 limit and it may hinder their plan also, but they might think it’s worth it. They’ll probably know they’ll be relying on injuries again to give them any chance, they look well clear of everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 Not just saying this because Rew isn't back but I would've chose Ellis over Rew for three reasons. 1. Ellis ended up with an average of 0.06 less than Rew's and that was with Ellis having to ride as a HL on certain occasions, Whilst Rew's average was attained riding at reserve, Rew was scoring a lot of easy points against weak reserves when taking 6/7 rides a night. 2. Ellis has previously been a solid HL in British Speedway for a good few years and if he clicks and turns the clock back a couple of years then he'll make a mockery of the 5.61 GSA, I can see a points worth of improvement in that. 3. The Tom Brennan signing, Adam is good mates with Tom isn't he? That's a 3 & 4 pairing that really could be dynamite (Assuming King rides at No.2). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 2 minutes ago, TTT said: Not just saying this because Rew isn't back but I would've chose Ellis over Rew for three reasons. 1. Ellis ended up with an average of 0.06 less than Rew's and that was with Ellis having to ride as a HL on certain occasions, Whilst Rew's average was attained riding at reserve, Rew was scoring a lot of easy points against weak reserves when taking 6/7 rides a night. 2. Ellis has previously been a solid HL in British Speedway for a good few years and if he clicks and turns the clock back a couple of years then he'll make a mockery of the 5.61 GSA, I can see a points worth of improvement in that. 3. The Tom Brennan signing, Adam is good mates with Tom isn't he? That's a 3 & 4 pairing that really could be dynamite (Assuming King rides at No.2). Ellis averaged more than Rew this year. Ellis 19 meetings, GSA of 5.90, Rew 23 meetings GSA 5.58. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 5 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Ellis averaged more than Rew this year. Ellis 19 meetings, GSA of 5.90, Rew 23 meetings GSA 5.58. No brainer to retain Ellis then. I was using gbspeedway.com GSA's when comparing them but yes I forgot they're rolling averages and not yearly ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siggysigalos Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 3 hours ago, Steve Irving said: Oh there is, 100%. Every club, Belle Vue included, build the best teams they can within the budget they have, without a seconds thought for anyone else. Absolutely Spot On, and they have tried with Keynan Rew now for weeks, as Arch Stanton quite rightly has said many times, Belle Vue have Zack Cook already in, but he is right, let's wait and see, we know Mr Lemon can change things at last minute, and now Louis has called Keynan's bluff as they say, Keynan suddenly becoming available might mean a last minute change for Belle Vue, and they would do that without a seconds thought about Zack, they are no different to Ipswich or Sheffield, if they want to change Zack at the last minute, they will, it's that simple. I would say either way, out of these 2 named riders, 1 will be at Belle Vue and 1 will be in the Birmingham septet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 2024 averages Inc bonus, Ellis 6.92 Rew 6.19. Bearing in mind their riding positions, including Adam is the obvious choice imo. If Brennan is the last rider, it's a cracking team... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 10 minutes ago, BluPanther said: 2024 averages Inc bonus, Ellis 6.92 Rew 6.19. Bearing in mind their riding positions, including Adam is the obvious choice imo. If Brennan is the last rider, it's a cracking team... Where did you get 6.19 from? It's 6.43 Meetings: 31 Rides: 150 Points: 216 Bonus: 25 Total: 241 Average: 6.43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 46 minutes ago, Steve Irving said: Have Ipswich played their hand a tad early here? All the others now know who Ipswich’ team is, so if they think it looks too strong they could club together and reduce the limit to 39, and Brennan suddenly doesn’t fit. Yes they would all have been working towards the same 40 limit and it may hinder their plan also, but they might think it’s worth it. They’ll probably know they’ll be relying on injuries again to give them any chance, they look well clear of everyone else. only have to qualify for the play offs. we have this nonsense every year about an unbeatable team, but with play offs then its about form at the right time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 58 minutes ago, Steve Irving said: Have Ipswich played their hand a tad early here? All the others now know who Ipswich’ team is, so if they think it looks too strong they could club together and reduce the limit to 39, and Brennan suddenly doesn’t fit. Yes they would all have been working towards the same 40 limit and it may hinder their plan also, but they might think it’s worth it. They’ll probably know they’ll be relying on injuries again to give them any chance, they look well clear of everyone else. Would be hilarious if they did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 10 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: only have to qualify for the play offs. we have this nonsense every year about an unbeatable team, but with play offs then its about form at the right time. If that 1-7 is in the play offs, they’re winning it. Even taking account of their record at your place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 1 minute ago, szkocjasid said: Would be hilarious if they did Agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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