ShanoXtra Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 8 hours ago, blue witch said: Personally you're paying £24 to watch Doyle and Emil and the top hitters of the other team. You're not paying to watch the second string or reserves. I’d be paying to watch all the team as I want to win the league and not selected heats. Each to their own I guess! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 8 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: I thought it said 12 meetings. My bad if i got it wrong. £37 isn't a bad deal. And you got a cup match in it. So that makes the 13th meeting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue witch Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 14 hours ago, Falcon1983 said: Not sure on that statement as you're then only watching half the races lol I get what you mean though £24 to watch Jason and Emil is the attraction but you also have 2 bright prospects to watch develope in Brennan and Dan, the best rising star heading into the season and two other riders who on their day can score big points at Foxhall As a complete side its probably worth more to pay to watch Funny one Just saying was it a coincidence that when Doyle and Emil was out injured the crowds went down massively? Exactly same team as last year apart from Tom in for Rew. The sport in general is at an inflated price for the action you see and that's why it's so hard to attract new fans to the sport in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 6 hours ago, blue witch said: Funny one Just saying was it a coincidence that when Doyle and Emil was out injured the crowds went down massively? Exactly same team as last year apart from Tom in for Rew. The sport in general is at an inflated price for the action you see and that's why it's so hard to attract new fans to the sport in this country. Tbf at that stage of the season there was nothing riding on the fixtures till the play-offs started, that could also have affected the crowds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 3 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Tbf at that stage of the season there was nothing riding on the fixtures till the play-offs started, that could also have affected the crowds. Any many got used to them losing and didn't want to come along and witness another loss. Winning is attractive. I go simply to see good racing, no matter who wins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 On 12/2/2024 at 12:25 PM, blue witch said: This isn't just Ipswich the whole league is just overpriced IMO. So hard to attract new fans when you're charging £24-£30(if you sit in some grandstands) for 15/17 mins of action depending on track size. I’ve just watched the first half of ITFC vs Crystal Palace, and there was nothing of interest in 45+3 minutes of mostly passing the ball backwards - yet people are happy to pay £££s for that … 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 25 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: I’ve just watched the first half of ITFC vs Crystal Palace, and there was nothing of interest in 45+3 minutes of mostly passing the ball backwards - yet people are happy to pay £££s for that … My condolences! For some reason people will pay for Premier League football which is often a rather dull affair - the ball is often in play for only 55-60 minutes of the 90. As someone who has over the years attended a lot of spectator sports I still think a decent speedway match tops the lot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaddlebowRoad Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 1 hour ago, Roger Jacobs said: I’ve just watched the first half of ITFC vs Crystal Palace, and there was nothing of interest in 45+3 minutes of mostly passing the ball backwards - yet people are happy to pay £££s for that … two awful sides to be fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 1 hour ago, Roger Jacobs said: I’ve just watched the first half of ITFC vs Crystal Palace, and there was nothing of interest in 45+3 minutes of mostly passing the ball backwards - yet people are happy to pay £££s for that … Plenty of dull speedway races during a meeting right? At least the facilities at Portman Road are an upgrade on anything Foxhall provides. And I guess the atmosphere is slightly better, if only British Speedway was 1% as successful as premier league football hey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted December 4 Report Share Posted December 4 (edited) 3 hours ago, Falcon1983 said: Plenty of dull speedway races during a meeting right? At least the facilities at Portman Road are an upgrade on anything Foxhall provides. And I guess the atmosphere is slightly better, if only British Speedway was 1% as successful as premier league football hey Spot on.. Some truly compare Apples to Oranges.. Even Ice Hockey is getting (at least), double the crowds . Speedway is a tiny, tiny minority sport in the grand scheme of things.. Some seem to think it should be followed by hundreds of thousands.. Run it like Poland,and you may have chance.... Otherwise, cut your cloth, and accept it for what it is .. A bit "made up, Mickey Mouse" stuff that can be a great night out if you ignore someone trying to make you believe it really means something that it clearly isn't.. Edited December 4 by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 4 Report Share Posted December 4 9 hours ago, mikebv said: Spot on.. Some truly compare Apples to Oranges.. Even Ice Hockey is getting (at least), double the crowds . Speedway is a tiny, tiny minority sport in the grand scheme of things.. Some seem to think it should be followed by hundreds of thousands.. Run it like Poland,and you may have chance.... Otherwise, cut your cloth, and accept it for what it is .. A bit "made up, Mickey Mouse" stuff that can be a great night out if you ignore someone trying to make you believe it really means something that it clearly isn't.. Personally I don't think running it like Poland would work, we have to face up to the fact that the sport is just not as popular anymore, there is just too much other stuff your money can be spent on in this country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted December 4 Report Share Posted December 4 59 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Personally I don't think running it like Poland would work, we have to face up to the fact that the sport is just not as popular anymore, there is just too much other stuff your money can be spent on in this country. There are and will continue to be clubs in Poland struggling to survive, it's not all rosy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted December 4 Report Share Posted December 4 2 hours ago, foreverblue said: Personally I don't think running it like Poland would work, we have to face up to the fact that the sport is just not as popular anymore, there is just too much other stuff your money can be spent on in this country. Speedway has been around for generations in this country, along with other sports. Unlike other sports (cricket is the best example I can think of), it has done nothing for decades in terms of serious and ongoing marketing to attract newer followers and most importantly, sponsorship. Money that riders can make in Poland is hardly reliant on attendances. Yes, there are more choices for spending your disposable on than there was years ago, but the same can be said for all sports in all countries. I’ve been surprised that the few Polish people I’ve met in this country know nothing about speedway (football is their national sport), but the people running the sport over there are obviously still doing something right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted December 4 Report Share Posted December 4 3 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: There are and will continue to be clubs in Poland struggling to survive, it's not all rosy. correct hense Stal Gorzow £2million in debt Chuganov as quoted in a statement that other clubs are in trouble and it will all reveal itself in time he said clubs should do a money review every month to show they are running ok ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 4 Report Share Posted December 4 20 hours ago, Roger Jacobs said: I’ve just watched the first half of ITFC vs Crystal Palace, and there was nothing of interest in 45+3 minutes of mostly passing the ball backwards - yet people are happy to pay £££s for that … 19 hours ago, SaddlebowRoad said: two awful sides to be fair The speedway equivalent of King's Lynn v Birmingham perhaps...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted December 4 Report Share Posted December 4 5 hours ago, Teromaafan said: Speedway has been around for generations in this country, along with other sports. Unlike other sports (cricket is the best example I can think of), it has done nothing for decades in terms of serious and ongoing marketing to attract newer followers and most importantly, sponsorship. Money that riders can make in Poland is hardly reliant on attendances. Yes, there are more choices for spending your disposable on than there was years ago, but the same can be said for all sports in all countries. I’ve been surprised that the few Polish people I’ve met in this country know nothing about speedway (football is their national sport), but the people running the sport over there are obviously still doing something right! British Speedway majorly messed up the involvement of Sky Sports But, other Sports such as cricket has huge financial resources to promote itself, as does football, as does Rugby, tennis etc Speedway doesn't have resources to do so, and feel tweeting to the same audience is marketing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted December 5 Report Share Posted December 5 On 12/3/2024 at 9:32 PM, Falcon1983 said: Plenty of dull speedway races during a meeting right? At least the facilities at Portman Road are an upgrade on anything Foxhall provides. And I guess the atmosphere is slightly better, if only British Speedway was 1% as successful as premier league football hey And you've hit the problem squarely on the head. I have been saying for years that it's nothing to do with the actual speedway - it's everything to do with the overall entertainment package on offer. Make it an entertaining evening all-round - with noise, light, atmosphere - and people are more likely to go home feeling satisfied. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted December 5 Report Share Posted December 5 (edited) 7 hours ago, Roger Jacobs said: And you've hit the problem squarely on the head. I have been saying for years that it's nothing to do with the actual speedway - it's everything to do with the overall entertainment package on offer. Make it an entertaining evening all-round - with noise, light, atmosphere - and people are more likely to go home feeling satisfied. Earlier this season I went to see the Aces V Sheffield at the NSS - I have to say as a speedway experience it was very good, great stadium, you could hear the announcer - the mascot messed about a bit with the crowd to get them going - decent food and drink on offer - the racing was pretty decent too. As I drove home I reflected on how much I had enjoyed it. I also quite enjoy my visits to Foxhall and Owlerton. I like the fact pre meeting there is an update on British Speedway which seems to be co-ordinated by Ian Branning etc - I like the fact the programmes look more professional now. If a referee keeps the meeting moving promptly then there are no large gaps between races. They key weakness at Foxhall is with it being such a large open stadium sometimes you can't hear much - they often do interviews pre match and if i am on te 2nd bend which is my preferred spot to watch I can't hear hardly anything. The same applies at Owlerton - my tigers mate likes to watch from the 3rd / 4th bend and you literally can't hear the tannoy at all there! Ryan Guest does a decent job as the meeting presenter as does old Presenter at Ipswich! Edited December 5 by GeneralMelchett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Roger Jacobs Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 23 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: https://x.com/ipswichspeedway/status/1866943204500836621?s=61 It says: "Captain Danny King Racing has had successful surgery on his hand." I didn't know he only had one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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