Arch Stanton Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 4 minutes ago, TTT said: Poor from Ipswich if it wasn't, Should be like a shark in water as soon as the original news broke. Lots goes on behind the scenes. Birmingham struggled to be competitive, last thing they need is someone pinching one of their leading lights from a season that provided very little. We’ve just read there’s been meetings as recently as yesterday, wouldn’t be a bit surprised if there wasn’t a gentleman’s agreement not to pinch the riders they wanted to keep to help them be competitive next year. All guesswork though, he might still end up at Ipswich we’ll have to wait and see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 9 minutes ago, TTT said: Poor from Ipswich if it wasn't, Should be like a shark in water as soon as the original news broke. Poole did that with Crump whilst The Aces were in the process of being rescued. Left us in the mire a bit that season. Ipswich cut from the same cloth, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 14 hours ago, TTT said: Defo a 40.00 limit because that's what the powerhouses will want. BV don't want Zischke at No.2, They'll need a 40 limit in order to get Tate at No.6 Ipswich can't sign Brennan unless it's a 40 limit because they'd have to get rid of two from the following 3 (King, Rew & Ellis) if it was to be a 39 limit. Sheffield won't want to release a power HL as the Holder Brothers will want to be at the same club so they'll need a 40 limit considering Woffinden has confirmed himself. Only need one of Leicester or Oxford to join the party and then a vote split is in favour of 40. This has been me the last 24hrs since I found out we have a place at the top table. Taken nearly 100 years. It is true isn’t it and not just BS? Does that mean the cheating stops or do we need to start cheating to fit in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 11 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: 100%. I'd really love to know (of course money counts) why he likes coming over. What is it British Speedway give him? Us fans are always this tracks s#!t, that tracks s#!t, this & that teams s#!t, stadiums ⅔ empty. Is it as simple as "easy money" in the Premiership over the Elitserien or is their something else us fans just don't understand? With Doyle & other Aussie's it's obvious why they'd be here, language, family etc, but I don't understand it with Pole's, Swede's, Dane's etc. Organisation of our league is so erratic with weather & rearranged fixtures too. The competitiveness of the Swedish league is far greater. But yes, 100% Sayfutdinov is box office & should be appreciated by every track. Chris Louis went to a huge effort to bring emil over here, he’s well looked after, adored by home and away fans everywhere he goes and says the technical tracks are helping no end skill set wise. Lots of stories of not getting paid in Sweden the last few years - while there’s been troubles at some clubs in uk I’ve never heard a whisper of Louis not paying riders, most riders who’ve ridden here state it’s the most professionally run club they’ve ridden for in uk. it was interesting as well what woffinden said on the mic after his first visit back to Foxhall and some of the other smaller tracks, that it had been so long he’d almost forgotten how much fun you can have on the small tracks, end of the day they’re trying to earn a living but also they do all just love having fun on their bikes don’t they 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 14 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: 100%. I'd really love to know (of course money counts) why he likes coming over. What is it British Speedway give him? Us fans are always this tracks s#!t, that tracks s#!t, this & that teams s#!t, stadiums ⅔ empty. Is it as simple as "easy money" in the Premiership over the Elitserien or is their something else us fans just don't understand? With Doyle & other Aussie's it's obvious why they'd be here, language, family etc, but I don't understand it with Pole's, Swede's, Dane's etc. Organisation of our league is so erratic with weather & rearranged fixtures too. The competitiveness of the Swedish league is far greater. But yes, 100% Sayfutdinov is box office & should be appreciated by every track. I may be deluded but genuinely I think Emil feels like he has unfinished business and actually wants to win the title with Ipswich. Every rider states how ‘professional’ the club is and on top of that, when others weren’t prepared, Ipswich fought hard to get him a VISA. I think just as a person he is very loyal. Of course I could be totally wrong! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 On 10/15/2024 at 7:26 PM, TTT said: Defo a 40.00 limit because that's what the powerhouses will want. BV don't want Zischke at No.2, They'll need a 40 limit in order to get Tate at No.6 Ipswich can't sign Brennan unless it's a 40 limit because they'd have to get rid of two from the following 3 (King, Rew & Ellis) if it was to be a 39 limit. Sheffield won't want to release a power HL as the Holder Brothers will want to be at the same club so they'll need a 40 limit considering Woffinden has confirmed himself. Only need one of Leicester or Oxford to join the party and then a vote split is in favour of 40. So the 39/40 issue needs to be resolved asap? Now that Birmingham have re-emerged to be a possible "disrupter", the 40 club could be outvoted with Leicester & Oxford turning. I wonder what the outcome would have been with 6 teams - 5-1 in favour of 40? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 58 minutes ago, Hamish McRaker said: So the 39/40 issue needs to be resolved asap? Now that Birmingham have re-emerged to be a possible "disrupter", the 40 club could be outvoted with Leicester & Oxford turning. I wonder what the outcome would have been with 6 teams - 5-1 in favour of 40? Probably 5-1 in favour yes, Now I'd say it's 5-2 in favour. Only need one of Leicester or Oxford to be in favour of 40.00 as the power three will vote 40.00 with KL and Brum voting for 39.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 (edited) On 10/16/2024 at 6:24 AM, Manifesto said: He is worth the admission money alone at owlerton a true asset to British speedway. I want to see every prem team full of gp riders if possible Proper Heat 13s as I call them! In the old says we had the likes of Knudsen, Tatum v Gundersen and say Cross or ~Pedersen. Now we have Holder and Woffinden v Satfudinov and Doyle etc - thats why we pay our money to see riders like them! Edited October 17 by GeneralMelchett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 On 10/15/2024 at 10:54 PM, Daniel Smith said: 100%. I'd really love to know (of course money counts) why he likes coming over. What is it British Speedway give him? Us fans are always this tracks s#!t, that tracks s#!t, this & that teams s#!t, stadiums ⅔ empty. Is it as simple as "easy money" in the Premiership over the Elitserien or is their something else us fans just don't understand? With Doyle & other Aussie's it's obvious why they'd be here, language, family etc, but I don't understand it with Pole's, Swede's, Dane's etc. Organisation of our league is so erratic with weather & rearranged fixtures too. The competitiveness of the Swedish league is far greater. But yes, 100% Sayfutdinov is box office & should be appreciated by every track. I suspect they actually enjoy the less frantic pace of speedway in the UK, the pressure and scrutiny are significantly less they can just turn up ride enjoy themselves and top up their earnings, and maybe win trophies. A bit like an elder footballer still wanting to play but droppping down a division for an easier life but still earning a decent wage for doing something they still love doing! Some riders probably just love riding! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 Well Jenkins as rising star then. That’s a massive boost. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 What a massive boost of good fortune for the Witches, A well deserved boost as well after all of the bad luck they had this year. Some clubs have made baffling decisions, Sheffield & Ipswich must be laughing at managing to get Flint & Jenkins when not being in a favourable pick position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 Jenkins at rising star is superb! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP78 Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 Fantastic news to get Jenkins... Him and Thompson at reserve will be super solid! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 11 minutes ago, TTT said: What a massive boost of good fortune for the Witches, A well deserved boost as well after all of the bad luck they had this year. Some clubs have made baffling decisions, Sheffield & Ipswich must be laughing at managing to get Flint & Jenkins when not being in a favourable pick position. https://ipswichwitches.co/2025-signing-jordan-jenkins/ This kind of confirms that the “draft pick” doesn’t really work. They didn’t know if he was going to be eligible for some time so people questioning whether he’d be allowed back on the list are justified. Reading between the lines here and I could be wrong, but Jenkins is hinting here that Birmingham possibly wanted him as they had first pick, but he dug his heels in and in the end got the move he wanted. The draft pick is a nonsense that doesn’t work. Have a rising star list if you must, but let clubs go for whom they want, and let riders ride where they want. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue witch Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 On 10/14/2024 at 8:14 AM, blue witch said: Doyle King Brennan Rew Emil Thompson Jenkins First part done and one of the most important. Great to have Jenkins back and at RS too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInTheDHSS Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 1 minute ago, Arch Stanton said: https://ipswichwitches.co/2025-signing-jordan-jenkins/ This kind of confirms that the “draft pick” doesn’t really work. They didn’t know if he was going to be eligible for some time so people questioning whether he’d be allowed back on the list are justified. Reading between the lines here and I could be wrong, but Jenkins is hinting here that Birmingham possibly wanted him as they had first pick, but he dug his heels in and in the end got the move he wanted. The draft pick is a nonsense that doesn’t work. Have a rising star list if you must, but let clubs go for whom they want, and let riders ride where they want. Having spoken to Jordan, he didn't think he would be on the rising star scheme again. Therefore his first choice was Oxford, and to be in the main body of the team. But as soon as he knew he would be on the rising star list again - and knowing Oxford wanted to protect Killeen - his focus was definitely on Ipswich. So just goes to show that Birmingham didn't really have a chance of getting him - or Flint - for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted October 18 Author Report Share Posted October 18 4 minutes ago, blue witch said: First part done and one of the most important. Great to have Jenkins back and at RS too Hope your team is spot on, I just wonder whether they’ll go for exactly the 7 as this year to prove a point? Kind of, this is what would have happened if we’d stayed fit. Still not sure on Brennan, especially now Birmingham have confirmed their intention to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BackInTheDHSS said: Having spoken to Jordan, he didn't think he would be on the rising star scheme again. Therefore his first choice was Oxford, and to be in the main body of the team. But as soon as he knew he would be on the rising star list again - and knowing Oxford wanted to protect Killeen - his focus was definitely on Ipswich. So just goes to show that Birmingham didn't really have a chance of getting him - or Flint - for that matter. Neither did Louis or Hawkins it seems. On Flint. He was Birminghams rising star this year. From todays press release.. ”Clubs who completed the 2024 season with a rising star who is also eligible for 2025 were given the option of “protecting” that rider and automatically declaring the same rising star for next season”. So from that, are we to assume Birmingham didn’t want Flint and wanted someone else? Edited October 18 by Arch Stanton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 On 10/14/2024 at 9:42 AM, ouch said: Regarding Rew, The Aces won’t get anyway near what Ipswich are offering. We could have upped our offer but we spent it on the Colts and bringing on juniors. Belle Vue were never in the running for Kenyan Rew. Jason Doyle was the one who brought him over, not Mark Lemon as you choose to believe. Doyle recommended him to Chris Louis and the deal was done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 2 minutes ago, Steve Irving said: Belle Vue were never in the running for Kenyan Rew. Jason Doyle was the one who brought him over, not Mark Lemon as you choose to believe. Doyle recommended him to Chris Louis and the deal was done. Well I guess it depends on which horse you’re getting the information straight from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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