Birmingham Brummies 2025 ?.

[Byeall]

59 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said:

I get the feeling Tom is loyal but can he afford to wait for confirmation from the Brummies 

Loyalty can go out of the window if big bucks is offered

[Racin Jason 72]

2 hours ago, Roundthebend said:

Loyalty can go out of the window if big bucks is offered

Even if the money was the same perhaps being in the same team as Doyle and Sayfutinov would be tempting.  
two truly world class riders who are happy to help their team mates.  I know Dan Thompson has really benefited from being in the same team. 

[noaksey]

On 9/14/2024 at 9:48 AM, HGould said:

At face value that's about as positive a statement of intent re the Dogs as we could have hoped for.

The use if the word "in" re September is far clearer than "by September" I guess.

I'm a bit surprised, though happy, that it will take so long to transition.

I think the one UNKNOWN is whether Dogs will run a FULL schedule to September or taper off during the summer as the owners wont want to have the scenario of far fewer Dog Meets they would want Full Schedule.

At least NT can go to the BSPL and declare a season to "September" is possible.

BSPL may be wary of a scenario like Lakeside > Rye House but at a push I suppoe IF it closed with Brummies having an outstanding final to race either Owners would allow it or we could use ahem...Leicester  - we can but dream of Finals!

Over to Nigel T I guess!  

 

Good summary 

[Dave Jones]

6 hours ago, *JJ said:

Someone on this forum was retailing a rumour that he had made a verbal agreement to return to the Brummies next year (verbal agreements are notoriously not worth the paper they are written on, but it was probably verbal because it was not totally confirmed that Perry Barr will be available); but I really hope that this is true. He was riding for Ipswich because they had a couple of extra matches in the play-offs.

“ Verbal agreements not worth the paper they’re written on” That’s a new one on me.  😂

[proud panther]

5 hours ago, Roundthebend said:

Loyalty can go out of the window if big bucks is offered

When a rider can get dropped after a few poor meetings, there is little loyalty either way, example Zach Cook.

[*JJ]

17 hours ago, Dave Jones said:

“ Verbal agreements not worth the paper they’re written on” That’s a new one on me.  😂

Attributed to Sam Goldwin, of MGM films.

[P T Preece]

Thats interesting news, its up to Nigel now, lots of ifs and butts to consider.

[Teromaafan]

On 9/15/2024 at 3:40 PM, Dave Jones said:

“ Verbal agreements not worth the paper they’re written on” That’s a new one on me.  😂

You could work your way through every episode of Only Fools And Horses and would struggle to find a line funnier than that 🤣

[GiveusaB]

First signing B'ham should make IF they race next season is : Someone to sort the track out!

Doesn't matter which rider/s line-up, a good/great rider cant make a bad track good!

[StarBoy]

3 hours ago, GiveusaB said:

First signing B'ham should make IF they race next season is : Someone to sort the track out!

Doesn't matter which rider/s line-up, a good/great rider cant make a bad track good!

Think the more pressing need for Birmingham if they go again is a competent Manager. 

[GiveusaB]

15 minutes ago, StarBoy said:

Think the more pressing need for Birmingham if they go again is a competent Manager. 

That really depends on who selects the team.....Sam was naive/clueless at times, but he was handed a pile of rubbishe to work with....

They wont sign a proper team manager because a proper team manager will want to choose his own team.....

[HGould]

This may or may not be controversial but i think the biggest issue at PB isn't always the preparation or lack of it, especially considering access and access to watering problems a rented Track brings.

The bigger is I've long thought is the shape. 

It's classic 2 valve / Upright designed shape following to contours of the out dog track and for reasons of necessity (understandably so) the access to track lighting and electrics. Its a problem that befalls any track where Speedway is the "junior sport" and/or which Speedway does not own.

I think it would be suited, if Stadiums Owners had ever agreed and lets be honest it's too late now, to a makeover very similar to the one Swindon had. Reduce the length of the straights by 20-25 metres and widen and bank the tuns a bit more by cutting in to the centre green.

Every old upright rider I've ever spoken to tells me the same things, modern uprights rev far too high and don't make for better racing as we have a generation of throttle jockeys few of whom know how to feather a throttle to create grip.

One exception I noted to this during this season is Brennan, and in his NDL days, he uses the throttle much more like a far more experienced rider or one from the pre Upright era.  

 

[GiveusaB]

17 hours ago, HGould said:

This may or may not be controversial but i think the biggest issue at PB isn't always the preparation or lack of it, especially considering access and access to watering problems a rented Track brings.

The bigger is I've long thought is the shape. 

It's classic 2 valve / Upright designed shape following to contours of the out dog track and for reasons of necessity (understandably so) the access to track lighting and electrics. Its a problem that befalls any track where Speedway is the "junior sport" and/or which Speedway does not own.

I think it would be suited, if Stadiums Owners had ever agreed and lets be honest it's too late now, to a makeover very similar to the one Swindon had. Reduce the length of the straights by 20-25 metres and widen and bank the tuns a bit more by cutting in to the centre green.

Every old upright rider I've ever spoken to tells me the same things, modern uprights rev far too high and don't make for better racing as we have a generation of throttle jockeys few of whom know how to feather a throttle to create grip.

One exception I noted to this during this season is Brennan, and in his NDL days, he uses the throttle much more like a far more experienced rider or one from the pre Upright era.  

 

Good post!

[P T Preece]

On 9/13/2024 at 6:21 PM, heathen52 said:

Here is a short excerpt from a retirement announcement by the ARC Greyhound operations director Rachel Corden.

 The timing to step down is right for me but
also right for our stadia as we have just finalised all the plans for the move of our Perry Barr
operation to Wolverhampton, which will happen in September 2025, ahead of the Landlord
requiring the return of the Perry Barr site.

The full statement is here https://greyhoundscene.proboards.com/thread/87317/on-corden-leave-all-posts

This will hopefully enable Birmingham to make an early decision on whether or not they will come to the tapes in 2025, as i understand it Birmingham are dependant on Greyhound racing continuing to take place at Perry Barr in 2025, this brings a little clarity to timelines.

Clicked on the link but wont show me anything ,you need permission.

[BrumFan]

59 minutes ago, P T Preece said:

Clicked on the link but wont show me anything ,you need permission.

Just Google Rachel Corden.  Brings up the link to the blog from greyhoundstar.co.uk.Do

[Bash]

22 hours ago, HGould said:

One exception I noted to this during this season is Brennan, and in his NDL days, he uses the throttle much more like a far more experienced rider or one from the pre Upright era.  

 

That's because he learnt on the small Eastbourne track.

[noaksey]

On 9/19/2024 at 2:40 PM, HGould said:

This may or may not be controversial but i think the biggest issue at PB isn't always the preparation or lack of it, especially considering access and access to watering problems a rented Track brings.

The bigger is I've long thought is the shape. 

It's classic 2 valve / Upright designed shape following to contours of the out dog track and for reasons of necessity (understandably so) the access to track lighting and electrics. Its a problem that befalls any track where Speedway is the "junior sport" and/or which Speedway does not own.

I think it would be suited, if Stadiums Owners had ever agreed and lets be honest it's too late now, to a makeover very similar to the one Swindon had. Reduce the length of the straights by 20-25 metres and widen and bank the tuns a bit more by cutting in to the centre green.

Every old upright rider I've ever spoken to tells me the same things, modern uprights rev far too high and don't make for better racing as we have a generation of throttle jockeys few of whom know how to feather a throttle to create grip.

One exception I noted to this during this season is Brennan, and in his NDL days, he uses the throttle much more like a far more experienced rider or one from the pre Upright era.  

 

Swindon were fortunate to get permission, I know Wolves and Sheffield have attempted changes that would have involved taking up part of the centre green certainly in Sheffield 's case, but were refused..in the main greyhound landlords seem to be protective of that area. As you say too late for Brum now regardless 

[Fromafar]

Don’t understand Tolley’s financial situation,stressing 5 away fixtures putting strain on them.He has surely had to budget for that,it wasn’t something he didn’t know.

[Racin Jason 72]

On 9/23/2024 at 11:27 AM, Fromafar said:

Don’t understand Tolley’s financial situation,stressing 5 away fixtures putting strain on them.He has surely had to budget for that,it wasn’t something he didn’t know.

I thought the same. It’s incredible that a successful businessman says daft things like that. And blaming bad luck and his riders not performing when he has sanctioned the team signings