Oxford Spires 2025

[SaddlebowRoad]

32 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

Oxford keep making mistakes, last they dropped Klindt and why have they let Harris go to Kings Lynn?

clubs dont 'let' riders go

they are self employed and can accept whatever offer they choose 

[Tinker]

1 hour ago, MP78 said:

Tungate

Janowski

Wright

Kildemand

Riss

Gusts

Killeen

 

Thanks for that MP. 

[The Cheese]

Blown away by this signing.

[Bagpuss]

1 hour ago, The Cheese said:

Blown away by this signing.

He'll put the wind up the opposition.

[foreverblue]

3 hours ago, SaddlebowRoad said:

clubs dont 'let' riders go

they are self employed and can accept whatever offer they choose 

True but surely the club they are riding for should have first refusal so maybe Harris decided he did not want to ride for Oxford anymore.

[Arch Stanton]

31 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

True but surely the club they are riding for should have first refusal so maybe Harris decided he did not want to ride for Oxford anymore.

Harris himself gave a statement in October saying he wasn’t in Oxford’s plans and didn’t seem to be exactly pleased about it either. 
 

https://watch.britishspeedway.co.uk/articles/bombed-out

Edited 3 hours ago by Arch Stanton

[Triple.H.]

59 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:

Harris himself gave a statement in October saying he wasn’t in Oxford’s plans and didn’t seem to be exactly pleased about it either. 
 

https://watch.britishspeedway.co.uk/articles/bombed-out

But there's also generally  a minimum of two sides to a story.

[foreverblue]

1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said:

Harris himself gave a statement in October saying he wasn’t in Oxford’s plans and didn’t seem to be exactly pleased about it either. 
 

https://watch.britishspeedway.co.uk/articles/bombed-out

Oh yes forgot that so my original point was they let him go and then did not build the team to the limit.

[foreverblue]

1 hour ago, Bagpuss said:

He'll put the wind up the opposition.

I wondered how long it would take for the jokes on his name. There are usually strong gusts at the NA.

[Arch Stanton]

8 minutes ago, Triple.H. said:

But there's also generally  a minimum of two sides to a story.

But we’ve literally heard his haven’t we. He was told he wasn’t in Oxford’s plans and didn’t seem particularly pleased about it. Pretty weird statement to make if he left of his own desire.

[szkocjasid]

If Oxford had kept Boughen as thier RS & protecting him. They could've had this team?

Rohan Tungate 7.71

Maciej Janowski 7.02

Charles Wright 6.32

Chris Harris 6.06

Peter Kildemand 6.00

Erik Riss 5.55

Ashton Boughen RS

Total 38.66

 

Still a point below the limit, but strong at reserve.

It's all ifs, buts & maybes anyway.

 

First two home matches will be difficult & a real test for the team, King's Lynn (with Harris at reserve) & Ipswich.

Edited 1 hour ago by szkocjasid

[Triple.H.]

13 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:

But we’ve literally heard his haven’t we. He was told he wasn’t in Oxford’s plans and didn’t seem particularly pleased about it. Pretty weird statement to make if he left of his own desire.

You've missed the point

Why wasn't he in Oxford plans for 2025 ?

I have no idea of falling outs etc behind the scenes. 

That's why I said there's a minimum of two sides to every story

Bomber if I remember correctly  said in his statement that it will all come out in his book.

Let's see what he says when it comes out. Hopefully not for a fair few years.

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Triple.H.

[Arch Stanton]

1 minute ago, Triple.H. said:

You've missed the point

Why wasn't he in Oxford plans for 2025 ?

I have no idea of falling outs etc behind the scenes. 

That's why I said there's a minimum of two sides to every story

 

I’ve missed nothing and it’s totally irrelevant as to the reasons of him not being in Oxford’s team in 2025. I was responding to a post that said maybe Harris didn’t want to ride for Oxford anymore, and that clearly isn’t the case whichever way you want to spin it. He was informed he wasn’t in the plans this year, the reasons why they decided that is completely irrelevant. 

[Triple.H.]

3 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:

I’ve missed nothing and it’s totally irrelevant as to the reasons of him not being in Oxford’s team in 2025. I was responding to a post that said maybe Harris didn’t want to ride for Oxford anymore, and that clearly isn’t the case whichever way you want to spin it. He was informed he wasn’t in the plans this year, the reasons why they decided that is completely irrelevant. 

So how do you know he wanted to ride for Oxford and the poster you were replying to was wrong ?

 

[Arch Stanton]

Just now, Triple.H. said:

So how do you know he wanted to ride for Oxford and the poster you were replying to was wrong ?

 

Eh? You’re making no sense whatsoever. Let me make it a little simpler for you as you appear to be struggling. Chris Harris himself released a statement saying that he wasn’t in Oxford’s plans. That’s the factual part. Now the rest of his statement is open to debate. My personal point of view, is he didn’t seem to have taken the news particularly well and was happy riding for the club. Of course I don’t know that and could be wrong there. But if it was a mutual decision or he himself wanted to move, then it was a very strange statement to make. But again, I have no idea as to Oxford’s reasoning for not wanting Harris this year, and quite frankly I don’t particularly care. The only fact we know, is that Harris wasn’t in Oxford’s plans because the rider himself said so. 

[Aries]

Harris 100% wanted to remain at Oxford this year and to say he was disappointed he isn’t is an understatement. 

[Steve Irving]

Harris not being at Oxford is the reason Boughen isn’t either despite him originally being in the side. 

[Hilly]

Maybe think how the Boughen to Glasgow move came about, an existing club asset maybe assisting with things to move a younger club asset elsewhere??? Seems plausible??

[IainB]

1 hour ago, foreverblue said:

I wondered how long it would take for the jokes on his name. There are usually strong gusts at the NA.

If (When) he falls off... will he have dropped his gusts (close enough 😁)