MP78 Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 Tungate at number 1 then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 1 hour ago, TTT said: Berwick have now confirmed Kildemand's average of 8.50 which means he's a 6.00 in the Premiership. It always used to be a 1.5 multiplier, guess that must have changed then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 10 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: It always used to be a 1.5 multiplier, guess that must have changed then. It hasn't been for assessed averages for some years. Totally illogical, but hey what do you expect from 'the wise ones' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted December 11 Author Report Share Posted December 11 37 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: It always used to be a 1.5 multiplier, guess that must have changed then. It would've helped if they let us know in the AGM press release. Berwick's rider profile page does have Kildemand down as 8.50 though so perhaps the conversion rate is now 1.4 and the higher ups have just rounded the assessed Kildemand figure up to 8.50 instead of 8.40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 (edited) So how much do Oxford have left for the last rider? Leon Madsen's last average in Britain was 6.10, so he could still fit? Edited December 11 by LagutaRacingFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delejt Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 I don't think Kildemand's average will be converted by any multiplier. He will likely fall into Cat 3 AMA for both leagues (excerpt from 2024 Regulations) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 19 minutes ago, LagutaRacingFan said: So how much do Oxford have left for the last rider? Leon Madsen's last average in Britain was 6.10, so he could still fit? He would be re-assessed if he came here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 5 hours ago, arnieg said: We've been told he is. [There is really no other conclusion that can be drawn from Berwick's statement that he comes in at no 1.] However that is not consistent with the categorisation in the table in 10.2.2 of the regs. The implication is that the wording for 2025 has been amended. Most likely from 'last season' to 'any of last three seasons'. So Kildemand now comes in on 6 which means all the talk of Dudek, Madsen etc is now out the window. which explains why they are ringing lyager, stevie worrall, rene bach as the last rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted December 11 Author Report Share Posted December 11 Oxford have learnt a lesson this winter, Don't go chasing a pipe dream that's very unlikely to become a reality (Bewley) Utter madness and now they've left themselves well short in 2025 to a point where they're relying on the old Kildemand to turn up, Relying on Tungate to become an established No.1 over a full season in a stronger 2025 Premiership as well as relying on a rider from Europe to fill the last spot otherwise they're well under the limit with a British based rider like Steve Worrall, Justin Sedgmen, Lewis Kerr etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 1 hour ago, TTT said: Oxford have learnt a lesson this winter, Don't go chasing a pipe dream that's very unlikely to become a reality (Bewley) Utter madness and now they've left themselves well short in 2025 to a point where they're relying on the old Kildemand to turn up, Relying on Tungate to become an established No.1 over a full season in a stronger 2025 Premiership as well as relying on a rider from Europe to fill the last spot otherwise they're well under the limit with a British based rider like Steve Worrall, Justin Sedgmen, Lewis Kerr etc. In my calculations they have 7.40 left so it does indeed look like they will be at least a point short of the limit. What a cock up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTW Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 I’m guessing Lyager would come in on a similar average to kildemand if so then 1.40 under the limit is huge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 Its not always about building to the limit though, more about getting the riders that you want in your 1-7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyLaner Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 4 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: Its not always about building to the limit though, more about getting the riders that you want in your 1-7 “I want rider who will score fewer points” said nobody ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedball Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 Think Oxford got stitched when Musielak got tempted by Birmingham. Been on the back foot team building wise since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 Kenneth Bjerre Michael Jepsen Jensen Alexander Loktaev Janusz Kolodziej Rasmus Jensen One of the above would make Oxford a competitive side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilly Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 Maybe Kildemand has also a new made up average in the Premiership as well as the Championship, was there once a rule that the an assessed average could not be converted and used for doubling up/down?? If he is indeed a 6pt average, we are well and truly going to be well adrift at the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 35 minutes ago, LagutaRacingFan said: Kenneth Bjerre Michael Jepsen Jensen Alexander Loktaev Janusz Kolodziej Rasmus Jensen One of the above would make Oxford a competitive side. Which one? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 7 minutes ago, RoundTheBoards said: Which one? My order of preference. 1. Janusz Kolodziej 2. Rasmus Jensen 3. Michael Jepsen Jensen 4. Aleksandr Loktaev 5. Kenneth Bjerre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 (edited) 36 minutes ago, LagutaRacingFan said: My order of preference. 1. Janusz Kolodziej 2. Rasmus Jensen 3. Michael Jepsen Jensen 4. Aleksandr Loktaev 5. Kenneth Bjerre Averages rule out 1 & 3. I could live with Razzer though, and Loktaev would certainly be interesting. Edited December 11 by arnieg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 3 hours ago, SandyLaner said: “I want rider who will score fewer points” said nobody ever. Seems to be Peter Schroeck's attitude to team changes though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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